searching archives P.S.

[Ian Livingston]

> And one take on Cyprian is that he goes through a Jung-written-about [others too, I'm sure] breakdown of his self to be remade psychologically and spiritually.

And he, Geli, Oedipa, and D.L. all exhibit qualities of Jungian
hermaphroditism, in which the qualities of eros and logos are
harmoniously balanced.


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> absoloutely too I needlessly add.......I think we could find "values" that the second wave feminists of the late 20th century argued for instantiating into the culture in his writing.
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> --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: searching archives P.S.
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:18 PM
>> On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:55 PM, rich
>> wrote:
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>> > absolutely. I wonder if Geli's counterpart in AtD is
>> Cyprian (a man woman or woman man)--out of all the screw ups
>> in AtD, man I think he's the best situated, tho he's gotta
>> go thru some shit to get to that point. Geli is good to go
>> from the start but she stands out in GR as really "with it"
>> throughout.  and I love her fucking owl ;)
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>> > rich
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>> Damn! Traction! Yeah, Cyprian is headed towards a state
>> akin to Avalokitesvara.
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>> And hey—D.L. may be the most throughly "human" of all of
>> Pynchon's "characters." Think about it.
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>> Very strong, albeit odd, feminist streak in TRP.
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>> > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Robin Landseadel
>> <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
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>> > In any case, I see oodles of stuff in Pynchon's
>> writing that relates to ecofeminism. It's odd, my initial
>> run-in with T'n'A resulted in a flame war. Subsequent
>> interactions were more copacetic. I think the feminist
>> streak starts warming up in CoL49, resulting in sometimes
>> confused messages. But isn't it Geli Tripping, of all
>> people, who seems to be on the right track in GR? There's so
>> much Magical Realism in TRP's post GR career it seems a
>> little coarse to note that the author has become ever more
>> obsessed with ever more heretical ideas, Western Occult is
>> all in there, right on the surface, nothing "occult" about
>> that. But I say that the exploration of the realm of heresy
>> [for the hell of it]  is the central McGuffin in the
>> author's canon. In any case, I do believe that T'n'A's
>> focusing on the increasingly feminist skew of Pynchon's
>> writing is right on track. The CIA's in there [just a
>> population count, Jim] California is the map but Feminism is
>> the territory in all three—The Crying of Lot 49, Vineland
>> and Inherent Vice. Weird, eh?
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>> > Blame it on the moon.
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