Was Augie March thread, misc.

[Mark Kohut]

Speaking of Dylan, Michael Gray in his incredible Bob Dylan Encyclopedia, says
as he glosses one fairly early song, Jokerman, I think.......sez that Dylan, like TPR,
read and was influenced early by The White Goddess.....goin aroun' in them days.

And, speaking of Robert Graves, when at Oxford studying English Litchratur he was
told by a don, condemningly : "It is obvious you prefer some writers to others, Robert"



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From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 6:45:52 PM
Subject: Re: Was Augie March thread, misc.

Fantastic movie - I've seen it three times, so far.

The quote could be a steal/homage, but it's not such an excessively quirky statement that two people couldn't make it independently.  Also, a lot of the words in the script are taken directly from interviews and speeches, so it might come directly from Dylan.

Laura

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>From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mar 28, 2010 5:48 PM
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>I just watched, again, Todd Haynes' interpretation of Dylan---early life at least---the movie
>"I'm Not There".....and in it there is a scene in which Dylan leaves a limo after being "interviewed"
>by an  ultrasmug hit man of a journalist---the guy said to be the inspiration for Mr. Jones in
>that song, I believe---
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>and, as Dylan leaves, upset--being played by the Blanchett character here---he says: "I know
>all I need to know about you, you don't know anything about me"......!!
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>An artist to journalist archetype? An artist v. world urban legend?....
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>Couldn't believe my ears....
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>From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:43:46 PM
>Subject: Was Augie March thread, misc.
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>I wonder whether TRP liked Bellow's work better than Bellow liked his, as SB's reaction to it has
>been brought up on the plist, I believe. I bet he did: P's reading seems very large-hearted, snubbing 
>nothing pre-emptively and maybe liking little but trivial, mediocre books, which he probably has long avoided.
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>Here's a P tangent involving one of P's first great 'getters', Tony Tanner. Tanner's penetrating of P's meanings, style 
>and early achievement-- without a net, as it were, is very commendable, as has been said (by Rich, at least, I think). 
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>Anyway, I heard a story which I later did find in print---which means, if it is not true, it is now institutionalized as truth!----
>about Saul and Tony being at the same literary party (In London, I think). Tanner had written on Saul B's work as
>well, of course. Someone at the party asked Tanner if he had ever met Saul and he said No. The person decided
>to introduce them. He took Tony over to Saul, who when he learned who he was snubbed him with a line like this:
>"I know everything I need to know about him; he knows nothing about me."...
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>Ah, the literary life...
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