On Group Reads
Henry M
scuffling at gmail.com
Tue May 11 12:21:47 CDT 2010
Ulysses before AtD! The big, deep, modern, difficult, referential,
poetic book that I presume is THE book that first got many of into
reading big, deep, modern, difficult, referential, poetic books.
AsB4,
Henry Mu
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Aarnoud Rommens wrote:
> i'd certainly be game for a close reading of AtD. it will conjure up links with other writings along the process, no doubt. so: yes!
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> On 2010-05-11, at 12:55 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
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>> Seems like a discussion of what to read next has generated more posts from more people
>> than we have been seeing. I think that's good. (I like lots of posts....I use this email address
>> for Pynchon and just a few other things.....I think it is very easy to skim, skip or delete threads
>> that are of little interest to me---or when I am too busy)
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>> I like the suggestion of a non-Pynchon book such as Augie March or others. But...
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>> But, getting no younger and set in my ways, I sorta always want a Pynchon book to be being read
>> on this list. Sorta its essence.
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>> If we want to read different ones, I hope posting can be more often than once a week which makes me fear
>> a too general level of remarking............I prefer close reading, as I've said too often
>> and the back-and-forth of findings and interpretative resonances.
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>> I have also kept up an irregular--and very miscellaneous----reading of books, writers, etc. who we know or think influenced TRP.
>> The better to 'get' him; the better to 'feel' his work, imho. For me.
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>> I wonder if anyone else wants to do that? Along with reading a Pynchon work?
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>> Another thought: Have we ever considered reading the miscellaneous non-fiction pieces?........and commenting on their resonances,
>> allusions, what we think we know about TRP from them. Where he said his mind was..at very times and about various things? (Bits do come up A LOT in any discussion of a fiction....often a good dispute-settler)
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>> That said: I am also rereading--and writing stuff on---Against the Day and, yes, it is THE BOOK we have so much more to learn how to read, I think. Tim Ware said at the first Pynchon conference which had papers about it, that it will take, maybe, ten years to learn how to read. At least [and the wiki and this
>> list have shortened however long it will take......I once read a terrif essay on Hamlet in which the scholar argued that it took @200 years for we English language readers to learn how to read---start to 'get' Hamlet. Modern communication technology will compress that-----(and, no, he's not him anyway)---
>> but it is SO RICH.........
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>> I will say once ogain that there is lotsa circumstantial evidence that TRP began writing ATD when he finished GR. He put everything in it---including GR---
>> which contains everything itself, in Tore Rye Anderson's great aphorism about both of them.
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>> So, THAT's my first vote......the others are second thru last.
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>> By the way: that readers like self-described Robin and/or Alice have their particular foci........................is another wonderful thing about this
>> list...............I look forward to another connection from Robin or Alice (and everyone who posts from a certain perspective. Ane we all have a perspective.) Pynchon is larger than, if not life,of course, then most commentators on................
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