On Group Reads

Emma Wrigley ecwrigley at excite.co.uk
Tue May 11 13:10:45 CDT 2010


Right, so now I'm really enthused about a group read of AtD. I'm just
wondering how I'll manage with Ulysses and AtD.

I'm swithering and about to leap from my chair and grab AtD...

Emma
<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Mark Kohut [markekohut at yahoo.com]
>Sent: 11/5/2010 5:55:50 PM
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: On Group Reads
>
>Seems like a discussion of what to read next has generated more posts
from 
>more people
>than we have been seeing.       I think that's good. (I like lots of 
>posts....I use this email address
>for Pynchon and just a few other things.....I think it is very easy to
skim, 
>skip or delete threads
>that are of little interest to me---or when I am too busy) 
>
>I like the suggestion of a non-Pynchon book such as Augie March or
others. 
>But...
>
>But, getting no younger and set in my ways, I sorta always want a
Pynchon book 
>to be being read
>on this list. Sorta its essence. 
>
>If we want to read different ones, I hope posting can be more often
than once 
>a week which makes me fear
>a too general level of remarking............I prefer close reading, as
I've 
>said too often
> and the back-and-forth of findings and interpretative resonances.
>
>I have also kept up an irregular--and very miscellaneous----reading of
books, 
>writers, etc. who we know or think influenced TRP.
>The better to 'get' him; the better to 'feel' his work, imho. For me. 
>
>I wonder if anyone else wants to do that?  Along with reading a Pynchon
work?
>
>Another thought: Have we ever considered reading the miscellaneous
non-fiction 
>pieces?........and commenting on their resonances,
>allusions, what we think we know about TRP from them. Where he said his
mind 
>was..at very times and about various things?  (Bits do come up A LOT in
any 
>discussion of a fiction....often a good dispute-settler)
>
>That said: I am also rereading--and writing stuff on---Against the Day
and, 
>yes, it is THE BOOK we have so much more to learn how to read, I think.
Tim 
>Ware said at the first Pynchon conference which had papers about it,
that it 
>will take, maybe, ten years to learn how to read. At least [and the
wiki and 
>this
>list have shortened however long it will take......I once read a terrif
essay 
>on Hamlet in which the scholar argued that it took @200 years for we
English 
>language readers to learn how to read---start to 'get' Hamlet. Modern 
>communication technology will compress that-----(and, no, he's not him
anyway)-
>--
>but it is SO RICH.........
>
>I will say once ogain that there is lotsa circumstantial evidence that
TRP 
>began writing ATD when he finished GR. He put everything in
it---including GR--
>-
>which contains everything itself, in Tore Rye Anderson's great aphorism
about 
>both of them. 
>
>So, THAT's my first vote......the others are second thru last. 
>
>By the way: that  readers like self-described Robin and/or Alice have
their 
>particular foci........................is another wonderful thing about
this
>list...............I look forward to another connection from Robin or
Alice 
>(and everyone who posts from a certain perspective. Ane we all have a 
>perspective.) Pynchon is larger than, if not life,of course,  then most
>commentators on................
>
>
> 
>.
> 
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