Fw: On Group Reads: TOO MANY CHOICES

[Emma Wrigley]

Yes, I loved Hunger and Saramago gets a vote from me too. a choices,
choices...

Emma
<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Mark Kohut [markekohut at yahoo.com]
>Sent: 11/5/2010 8:35:59 PM
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: Fw: On Group Reads: TOO MANY CHOICES
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>If not AtD, then V. for me (of Pynchon)
>
>Re the Coetzee read.....I thought it focussed not a fizzle but
............
>
>I would like to read Ulysses with this group.....I recently had it sent
to me 
>in bits via a site that sends out bits daily.......interesting way to
scatter 
>like Slothrop.....we could sign up the pynchon-list for this service
and have 
>something to comment on any day?.............
>
>But there is so much done on Ulysses already.....and one does need 
>Joycean/Dublin background just to have solid ground...
>
>If not Pynchon, or with Pynchon, I'd prefer something less
..annotated.....
>
>I would like to read Hamsun, esp Hunger....
>
>I like The Golden Notebook suggestion.......ADA............or Stanislaw
>Lem..................
>As well as Bellow...............................................
>
>Or someone like Grass.............The Tin Drum? or even a lesser one?
>
>Or new Nobelist Le Clezio?.............some Pynchonian themes there, I
gather.
>OR Saramago 
>or new Nobelist Herta Muller? 
>
>Or old Nobelist Herman Hesse after the scrim of time has reframed him? 
>
>Or Dante, a Pynchon fave........various translations to throw
around....lotsa 
>history and theology...and sin to explore...
>
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>----- Forwarded Message ----
>From: "kelber at mindspring.com" 
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 1:25:58 PM
>Subject: Re: On Group Reads
>
>We did have a group read of a non-Pynchon book (JM Coetzee's "The
Master of 
>Petersburg")and it fizzled just as surely as any Pynchon group read.  
>Personally, I don't mind if a group read has dead spots or fizzles to a
stop 
>if it's a book I'm enjoying. 
>
>I'm currently (very slowly) reading Augie March (I like it, but the
writing's 
>dense)but have nothing specific lined up afterwards.
>
>For a Pynchon group read, I vote along with Henry for V.
>
>For a non-Pynchon read, I vote along with Henry again for Ulysses.  On
the 
>other hand, how about Moby Dick - why not meet Alice on his/her own
ground?
>
>I couldn't finish The Savage Detectives (it got old quickly) and have
no 
>interest in 2666.
>
>Other suggestions:  I still haven't read Infinite Jest ...  
>
>Ada by Nabokov?
>
>The Golden Notebook by Doris Lessing?
>
>Sci-fi, anyone?:  Solaris, by Stanislaw Lem, The Man in the High Castle
or 
>anything else by PK Dick?
>
>Laura
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark Kohut 
>>Sent: May 11, 2010 12:55 PM
>>To: pynchon -l 
>>Subject: On Group Reads
>>
>>Seems like a discussion of what to read next has generated more posts
from 
>more people
>>than we have been seeing.      I think that's good. (I like lots of 
>posts....I use this email address
>>for Pynchon and just a few other things.....I think it is very easy to
skim, 
>skip or delete threads
>>that are of little interest to me---or when I am too busy) 
>>
>>I like the suggestion of a non-Pynchon book such as Augie March or
others. 
>But...
>>
>>But, getting no younger and set in my ways, I sorta always want a
Pynchon 
>book to be being read
>>on this list. Sorta its essence. 
>>
>>If we want to read different ones, I hope posting can be more often
than once 
>a week which makes me fear
>>a too general level of remarking............I prefer close reading, as
I've 
>said too often
>> and the back-and-forth of findings and interpretative resonances.
>>
>>I have also kept up an irregular--and very miscellaneous----reading of
books, 
>writers, etc. who we know or think influenced TRP.
>>The better to 'get' him; the better to 'feel' his work, imho. For me. 
>>
>>I wonder if anyone else wants to do that?  Along with reading a
Pynchon work?
>>
>>Another thought: Have we ever considered reading the miscellaneous
non-
>fiction pieces?........and commenting on their resonances,
>>allusions, what we think we know about TRP from them. Where he said
his mind 
>was..at very times and about various things?  (Bits do come up A LOT in
any 
>discussion of a fiction....often a good dispute-settler)
>>
>>That said: I am also rereading--and writing stuff on---Against the Day
and, 
>yes, it is THE BOOK we have so much more to learn how to read, I think.
Tim 
>Ware said at the first Pynchon conference which had papers about it,
that it 
>will take, maybe, ten years to learn how to read. At least [and the
wiki and 
>this
>>list have shortened however long it will take......I once read a
terrif essay 
>on Hamlet in which the scholar argued that it took @200 years for we
English 
>language readers to learn how to read---start to 'get' Hamlet. Modern 
>communication technology will compress that-----(and, no, he's not him
anyway)-
>--
>>but it is SO RICH.........
>>
>>I will say once ogain that there is lotsa circumstantial evidence that
TRP 
>began writing ATD when he finished GR. He put everything in
it---including GR--
>-
>>which contains everything itself, in Tore Rye Anderson's great
aphorism about 
>both of them. 
>>
>>So, THAT's my first vote......the others are second thru last. 
>>
>>By the way: that  readers like self-described Robin and/or Alice have
their 
>particular foci........................is another wonderful thing about
this
>>list................I look forward to another connection from Robin or
Alice 
>(and everyone who posts from a certain perspective. Ane we all have a 
>perspective.) Pynchon is larger than, if not life,of course,  then most
>commentators on................
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