V-2nd - Chapter 8 Space/Time scene climax

[Mark Kohut]

Now this fits right in with the "Romantic/romantic" parodying going down here 
with Winsome and Mafia, yes?

Don't you love that jab at the kind of writer who would romanticize Davy 
Crockett?.....the kind of writer
who fed America's self-identifying myths?    

don't you love that 'Mafia was in the other room watching herself undress in the 
mirror"?....Man, TRP
took out the whole slew of narrow autobiographical self-mythologizers, of all 
those memoir writers yet to come
in America---and the world


----- Original Message ----
From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 9:06:58 AM
Subject: Re: V-2nd - Chapter 8 Space/Time scene climax

Just to throw a useless curve ball, note that Debussy's unavoidable "Clair de 
Lune" is the the third movement of Debussy's "Suite Bergamasque."
    Moonlight becomes you, it goes with your hair
    You certainly know the right thing to wear
    Moonlight becomes you, I'm thrilled at the sight
    And I could get so romantic tonight

    You're all dressed up to go dreaming
    Now don't tell me I'm wrong

    And what a night to go dreaming

    Mind if I tag along

    If I say, "I love you"
    I want you to know
    It's not just because there's moonlight
    Although, moonlight becomes you so

    You're all dressed up to go dreaming
    Now don't tell me I'm wrong
    And what a night to go dreaming
    Mind if I tag along

    If I say, "I love you"
    I want you to know
    It's not just because there's moonlight
    Although, moonlight becomes you so

On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Michael Bailey wrote:

> Back then you could smoke in all kinds of places.  Job interviewers
> offered you a cigarette!  Nobody usually even got heavy if you ignored
> the no smoking sign in an elevator.  Or so I've heard.

My dad mostly went for Camel straights, later attempted Parliments for less tar 
and nicotine. In the supermarkets, in the carpet stores where he worked, just 
about everywhere smoke could stick to the walls.

> Even though
> the verbiage was much tougher: anyone lighting up (by implication,
> ANYWHERE AT ALL) when an elevator was in motion would be subject to
> some section and dotted subsection of some statute or something!
> Nowadays, I notice, the verbiage does restrict the scope of the
> prohibition to the interior of the elevator car (and they specify
> "igniting any substance")...
> 
> William Gibson in his new book noted that the finagling with cell
> phones these days has replaced a lot of the gestures and close-order
> hand-eye-expression drills that cigarette smoking used to
> involve...probably healthier (maybe)
> 
> ...she sends him to Anthroresearch Associates and it crosses his mind
> that she says it faster than he probably could (it doesn't cross his
> mind to practice it in front of her: too possibly embarrassing?)
> 
> Oley Bergomask - isn't a Bergomask some kind of dance in Shakespeare?  Yes:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergomask
> Bergamask, or bergomask or bergamasca (from the town of Bergamo in
> Northern Italy), is a clumsy rustic dance (cf. Shakespeare, A
> Midsummer Night's Dream, v. 360) copied from the natives of Bergamo,
> reputed to be very awkward in their manners.
> 
> Awkward in their manners?  Like a certain profane individual.
> 
> so is this a pointer to some Midsummer Night's Dream action?  Some
> kind of wacky mate-changing involving internecine squabbles among the
> faerie nobility and so forth?
> 
> Would Roony and Mafia be like Oberon and Titania?
> 
> Puck Bodine?  Decky-dance/Bergomask: same kinda thingie?
> 
> Is Space/Time employment a place where Profane, after his ass falls
> off, finds it on his head?

Would Space/Time employment be yet another variation on Boeing?

> Is the association of Rachel with work the major turnoff?
> 
> Questions, questions, questions.  And is Rachel blowing a kiss, or yawning?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Obama’s actions in office seem to indicate that he actually believed
> his own bullshit.
> (from Norman Spinrad's blog http://normanspinradatlarge.blogspot.com/)