V-2nd - Chapter 8 - real quick wind-up / Thank you and goodnight

[alice wellintown]

Yes, a splendid bunch of posts from Mr. MB; he certainly made the time
I spent reading his stuff time well spent. I like his style, the
allusive quips and hints, the pop culture lows and classical highs,
the winks and nods, even some of the farts and the excuse me for
farting under the covers at night were fun to read.

In a chapter that, at first, doesn't seem much of a rag and bone or
bottle shop of romantic historicisms or hothouse rathouse history
(see Dickens, Yeats, and Robert Holton), MB made a Krook of Mr.
Pynchon. Young P's Stencilized Romantic Irony, the ironic double of
spontanious combustion, clings like the papers in vacant lots that
swirl round Eliot's Preludes.

Those masterful images because complete
Grew in pure mind, but out of what began?
A mound of refuse or the sweepings of a street,
Old kettles, old bottles, and a broken can,
Old iron, old bones, old rags, that raving slut
Who keeps the till. Now that my ladder's gone,
I must lie down where all the ladders start
In the foul rag and bone shop of the heart.






On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Michael,
>
> Thank you...good, rich---too full to respond to fully, which is
> good---interesting. Lotsa connections
> to lotsa things.......
>
> Don't go silent now, 'kay?
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> To: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 1:13:55 AM
> Subject: V-2nd - Chapter 8 - real quick wind-up / Thank you and goodnight
>
> I had a gyroscope, when I was a kid.  Thing made me a bit dizzy to watch.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrocompass
> gyrocompasses have two main advantages over magnetic compasses:
>    * they find true north, i.e., the point of the Earth's rotational
> axis on the Earth's surface, as opposed to magnetic north, –an
> extremely important aspect in navigation, and
>    * they are unaffected by external magnetic fields which deflect
> normal compasses, such as those created by ferrous metals in a ship's
> hull.
>
> (for the curious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_gyro
> http://www.kronosproducts.com/freegyros.html) (hyeugh hyeugh)
>
>
> So Pynchon was aware of ex-Nazis in American tech industries...
>
> Mondaugen, by this time a "balding and porcine gentleman in a suit of
> European cut", supplies the raw material and Stencil does the
> half-hour Stencilizing!
>
>
> Thanks for being the kind and wonderful list members that you all are,
> and for allowing me the pleasure of this explication!  Thanks to Mr
> Pynchon for writing this wonderful book among others.
>
> I look forward to further insights and to following rather than trying
> to lead (I've always had kind of a problem with trying to embody any
> part of that whole "leadership" concept...) what, day after day,
> continues to be a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion!
>
>
>
> --
> - But you can wade in the water
> and never get wet
> if you keep on doin' that rag (Grateful Dead, "Doin' That Rag")
>
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