V-2nd - Chapter 8 - Section IV - Stencil's soliloquy

[Joe Allonby]

For some reason your 2nd to last came through in large, very bold text.

Don't mind me. Enjoying lurk mode.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robin Landseadel
<robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Other than you sending the post in plaintext?
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> I've been planning on making this painting of the card for years, only just got around to it.
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> On Oct 12, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Joe Allonby wrote:
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>> ROBIN? ARE YOU MAD AT US?
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>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > I believe the Angel is supposed to represent the Archangel Michael, least
>> > that's what I've read and others told me. Michael's supposed to be:
>> > . . .an archangel in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic tradition. He is viewed
>> > as the field commander of the Army of God. He is mentioned by name
>> > in the Book of Daniel, the Book of Jude, and the Book of
>> > Revelation, in which he leads God's armies against Satan's forces
>> > during his uprising. In the book of Daniel, Michael appears as "one of
>> > the chief princes" who in Daniel's vision comes to Gabriel's aid in his
>> > contest with the angel of Persia (Dobiel). Michael is also described
>> > there as the advocate of the Children of Israel and as a "great prince
>> > who stands up for the children of your [Daniel's] people".
>> > In Hebrew, the name Michael means "who is like God"(mi-who, ke-as or
>> > like, El-deity), which in Talmudic tradition is interpreted as a rhetorical
>> > question: "Who is like God?" (which expects an answer in the negative)
>> > to imply that no one is like God. In this way, Michael is seen as a
>> > symbol of humility before God.
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel)
>> > Make of that what you will, I don't know much about Michael, know plenty
>> > about Robin. But the Angel ain't in charge of these forces that surround.
>> > This fluidly gendered upwardly mirrored expression of the higher self is
>> > more like a conduit or passageway for those forces, an entity with the Art
>> > to fuse seemingly opposed forces. It's your better Angel. It's the
>> > Temperance of tempering steel with fire and water, it is the place where
>> > opposites have to meet anyway, might as well make the most of it. Temperance
>> > hangs out around the center of the Tree of Life . . .
>> > http://www.songspell.net/tarot.html
>> > . . . and is the best single observation post in the deck, the P.O.V. of the
>> > Artist's eye, which is one of many good reasons Aleister Crowley -- Mr.
>> > T.W.I.T. hisself—renames the card "Art" in his Thoth Tarot.
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>> > On Oct 11, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
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>> > like you said, another week or even a couple of weeks on just the
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>> > implications of that question might allow proper consideration.
>> >
>> > I suppose one of the things that always turned me off about "V." were these
>> > negative images of the strange female, a negative cast to witchy-ness that
>> > later gets blown away by Geli Tripping and pretty much stays away for good
>> > after that.
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>> > fortunately, Robin's nature spiritualism and his bringing up the
>> > Temperance card at this juncture indicate that he is more than aware
>> > of the issue.
>> >
>> > http://sourceryforge.org/index.php/Paul_Case
>> > very brief article; apparently Mr Case, before founding Builders of
>> > the Adytum, was a member of the New York chapter of the Golden Dawn;
>> > of the existence of which chapter aware this for the first time has
>> > made me...
>> >
>> > the Twits spreading their wings in NYC...building apartment buildings
>> > with girders having solid cores of selenium...
>> > "They just don't build them like they used to..."
>> > "You never studied, Peter!  They never made buildings like this!"
>> >
>> > is V. the Gatekeeper?  is Stencil the Keymaster?
>> >
>> > but, the Temperance card: http://tinyurl.com/27ufe9s
>> >
>> > is that right?  This would represent a woman with control over some of
>> > the most important primal forces of Nature...
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > - But you can wade in the water
>> > and never get wet
>> > if you keep on doin' that rag (Grateful Dead, "Doin' That Rag")
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