V-2 - Chapter 9 - Love is a lash

Michael Bailey michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Wed Oct 20 20:26:01 CDT 2010


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dies Irae..not surprisingly a 13th c hymn...in the RC Mass until the end of the
> sixties.
> My still-Catholic oldest buddy thinks it is the essence of olde Catholicism, of
> Catholicism.
>

Tristero Dies Irae...


> Black or otherwise, that Mass is bad shit.....the decky-dance of RC belief?
>

but wait: "God is angry" - the fear of the Lord is the beginning of
wisdom, it sez somewhere in the Proverbs

the thing about de Sade and the kill epiphany Mondaugen experiences
(while having Foppl's dreams, a fine point that I'm still not sure
what to make of)

is like, the basis behind conventional morality without some concept like
God is irritated
gets a little wishy-washy, categorical imperatives and such

so a person might fall into a Sadean perspective
(de Sade himself was a colonel or something in the 7 Years War, so he
might himself have had a battlefield epiphany)

true, pushing the reason for wanting to be good off onto some superior being
has problems of its own...

notably, interplay between earthly and heavenly authority figures
needs clarification (all authority is God-given, said Paul, but Idi
Amin?  George Bush, either one?)


> And, see 'scurvy'...a disease of not enough fruit/veggies grown in the sun.
> Tropical fruit....another looping tie-in to P's 'South is where it's at'
> trope....
>

need a banana breakfast

>
> EXTRA, EXTRA, pure unadulterated speculation via a spotty memory:
> I seem to remember a scene with a woman with black stockings and
> a faux-crop in La Dolce Vita, the 1960 Fellini movie?...And one sorta like
> it...the crawling on all fours part anyway in a Noel Coward anecdote----we
> remember
> TRP's words on Mr. Coward....
>


not right offhand...



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