(np) so apparently Summers is no great loss to the Obama administration

[Mark Kohut]

And could you believe the scene--to me also inspired by TRP; GR, you know 
where--- where the young Joey, unable to break up with his hometown girlfriend
and now doing phone sex with her fantasy-speaks of 'eating her turds' which 
taste like chocolate?....

I could not believe this scene. 


----- Original Message ----
From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
To: Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com>
Cc: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>; P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 8:25:12 PM
Subject: Re: (np) so apparently Summers is no great loss to the Obama 
administration

Speaking of which -  I finished "Freedom" last night.   It's better than The 
Corrections - imo anyway.   Anyone reading Freedom first will be disappointed in 
The Corrections.   They are different books in spite of similar settings.   The 
characters are younger and seem to be living in a more contemporary age.   The 
main themes seem somewhat different to me.    I think capitalist society may be 
the real setting,  certainly a theme and politics may be a character - no,  
another part of the setting.  


Bekah



On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Robert Mahnke wrote:

> Sadly, idiocy is common enough that you don't need to get to villainy
> if you're scraping away with Occam's Razor.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Ian Livingston
> <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Villainy? In capitalism? Never!
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Michael Bailey
>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey, thanks for that further insight.  Can't help but think though
>>> that there was a certain amount of villainy involved somewhere.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think there was any "effort to destroy Born's career," let
>>>> alone one led by Summers.  There was a disagreement over whether it
>>>> was a good idea to regulate derivatives.  She thought yes; Alan
>>>> Greenspan, Summers, Robert Rubin, Phil Gramm, and others thought no.
>>>> She was right and they were wrong.  (That said, you might question
>>>> whether regulation by the CFTC would have been any better than no
>>>> regulation at all, because it had a pretty strong free-market
>>>> orientation, at least until Obama took office.)  So this was not a
>>>> moment Summers should be proud of, but whoever wrote what's below is
>>>> hyperbolizing to trash him.
>>>> 
>>>> Here's a sympathetic Washington Post profile of Born from last year
>>>> that has a more complete account of what happened:
>>>> 
>>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/25/AR2009052502108.html
>>>>l
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Michael Bailey
>>>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/so_long_summers_20100921
>>>>> 
>>>>> Summers helped make law when he worked for Bill Clinton. He led the
>>>>> effort to destroy the career of Brooksley Born, the Clinton-appointed
>>>>> head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission who had the
>>>>> prescience to sound the alarm in the face of a dangerously spiraling
>>>>> market in suspect mortgage packages. Her sensible suggestion in a
>>>>> “concept release” for a study of the risks in those newfangled
>>>>> financial gimmicks horrified Summers, who told a Senate committee:
>>>>> 
>>>>> “In our view, the Release has cast the shadow of regulatory
>>>>> uncertainty over an otherwise thriving market—raising risk for the
>>>>> stability and competitiveness of American derivatives trading. We
>>>>> believe it is quite important the doubts be eliminated.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> They were eliminated when, at Summers’ instigation, Clinton signed off
>>>>> on the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which summarily banned any
>>>>> regulation of those derivatives under any existing law or by any
>>>>> agency.
>>>>> 
>>>>> and we all know how well that worked...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> "I have left my book,
>>>>> I have left my room,
>>>>> For I heard your voice
>>>>> singing through the gloom" - James Joyce
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> "I have left my book,
>>> I have left my room,
>>> For I heard your voice
>>> singing through the gloom" - James Joyce
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> "liber enim librum aperit."
>>