V-2nd - Chap 8 / I have really never read this book this closely before

Robin Landseadel robinlandseadel at comcast.net
Wed Sep 29 07:53:46 CDT 2010


On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:17 AM, Michael Bailey wrote:

> Onnnnnnnnnnnnn the other hand....

I see. So I guess it's not an NRB this time.

Well, it's good to be ambidextrous, yes?

> The Bay of Pigs,

First we got the bomb, and that was good, cause we love peace annnnnd  
--  MMMMMMotherhood . . .

> which was available for scrutiny before V. went to
> press,

 From what little I can recall of 1961/1963, lots of brown and grey.  
Everybody talks about the post-JKF pall over the land, but it really  
started in April of 1961.

> could conceivably ummm relate to Esther's Havana abortion,

Other than thoughts of mass sterilization on a scale previously  
unimaginable.

The peak year of the "Black Comedy" movement in comedy of the 1960s  
probably was 1963, the year  Lenny Bruce' got busted for "obscenity."

> which see, and Benny not learning a damn thing could relate to
> Rachel's tractor beam indeed being real and sincere, and she and her
> imperatives not at all to blame for Benny retracing imperialistic
> steps

Maybe Benny's fear of the inanimate is connected to the author's fear  
of "The Bomb", that thing which would make all things inanimate.  
Inanimate/entropic -- what the fuck's the difference once the head's  
blown off?

> you all probably got all this long ago, so I will start more awake-ly
> and less Oneirically cakewalking

	Got the Oneirical Cakewalk with the Boogie Woogie Flu,

	Ate too damn much Xy -- litol, now I don't know what to do.

	My bowels are in an uproar as I inhale a bud or two,

	Got the Oneirical Cakewalk with the Boogie Woogie Flu,

> thru Chapter 8 now (although by "now"
> I do mean in a short while)

I thought you said you had Cheetos and Orange soda, what kind of dump  
is this? I mean, where's the fuckin' ketchup?

>>  A person might really think that American colonialism was subsiding
>> and propose strategies for coping with that eventuality, which is
>> something I feel is alive within V., but can't articulate
>> coherently (obviously)

Post WWII American Colonialism, mammoth theme in TRP. Vineland, pages  
353/354. There will be a Scantron test during the last thirty minutes  
of this class.

>> Too many libraries?  That's an oxymoron or something, isn't it?

An excellent place to hide from the world.

> --  And did not he, like Arcoforty, farfar off Bissavolo, missbrand 
> her behaveyous with iridescent huecry of down right mean false
> sop lap sick dope? Tawfulsdreck! A reine of the shee, a shebeen
> quean, a queen of pranks. - James Joyce

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