TR and phonies

Erik T. Burns eburns at gmail.com
Sun Apr 10 15:06:38 CDT 2011


curiously enough, WG is brave enough in 1955 to throw darts at Ernest
Hemingway, probably the most authentic phony ever.

I would say WG is frighteningly prophetic.

think only on the fact that his 1975 novel J R about financial shenanigans
features a made-up character (in the sense that the main characters have
invented him as a way to dodge taxes) called Grynzspan.


On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> yeah, salinger w Holden sick of phonies....
>
> was this pervasive postwar theme, 50s to 60s breakthruh, almost a new one
> in American writers?...
>
> I know no real themes are new--Melville gave us Strike thru the Mask and
> all the confidence man
> cons but he was as prescient as a prophet........
>
> Would we label Gaddis prophet-like? In what ways?
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "edmoorester at gmail.com" <edmoorester at gmail.com>
> *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org
> *Sent:* Sun, April 10, 2011 2:12:22 AM
> *Subject:* TR and phonies
>
> re: TR
>
> this obsession with the. . .crap my german sucks. . . Kantian "thing in
> itself" is really interesting. . .
>
> reminds me of Holden Caufield and his observation on "phonies"
>
> and then i have to mention The Matrix. . .as modernity (or questioning the
> author or even experience in itself) progresses
>
> so many great phonies in the big world out there doing phoniness
>
> Wyatt would have loved Joseph Campbell
>
> ed
>
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