Recog ch 2
Richard Ryan
himself at richardryan.com
Sat Apr 23 11:12:12 CDT 2011
Now that you mention that about Cremer's film noir provenance, I see
that it's so. He's rather like Kasper Gutman, the Sidney Greenstreet
character in The Maltese Falcon.
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:26 AM, alice wellintown
<alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good point. Since the text is ambiguous, those surmises are worth
> considering. What is implicit? How is this implied?
> WG, like TP, conflates a bombed out world and a bombed out mind. Wyatt
> is unreliable, but we must read things through his perspective. Is it
> dawn? Is he insane? Is he suffering fever? Does the coffee make him a
> bit jumpy? What of the styles of narrative, the pastiche of WG? The
> art dealer seems a character out of hard-boiled detective fiction or
> film noir. The clever irony you note here is obvious enough, but there
> are several layers of irony and style at work here.
>
> Wyatt paints at night and breaks off with fever at dawn. What's up
> with the dawn? Why is Wyatt so outraged by a proposition made at dawn?
>
>
>> I don't believe the novel is explicit about what offends Wyatt about
>> Cremer's offer (Wyatt calls it "insane"); readers are left to surmise
>> for themselves. Perhaps its a genuine moral indignation at the
>> proposed dishonesty....but perhaps its also a matter of pride: Wyatt
>> may be offended by the suggestion that his work is not sufficiently
>> brilliant to attract favorable notices on its own, that he would have
>> to pay for a good review of his paintings. The irony that his genuine
>> canvases would only provoke "forged" criticism is obvious.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Michael Bailey
>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I guess Wyatt doesn't hope for an eternal reward.
>>>>
>>>> All his history to me at one point suggested that.
>>>
>>> which things made you think that?
>>>
>>> for me the idea cropped up when he talks about "the vanishing point"
>>> which is suggestive but I'm not sure how to express why that makes me
>>> think about post-life planning...
>>>
>>>
>>> mainly, though, the best indicator is that he doesn't act in his own
>>> epicurean interests, but refuses Cremer's kind offer --
>>>
>>> If he doesn't believe in some kind of transcendental rightness that he
>>> has to answer to, be judged by, and expect non-earthly rewards from,
>>> then why does he do that?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Richard Ryan
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>
>
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Richard Ryan
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