TRTR(I.3) Hidden Profits [Epigraph]

[rich]

if only to play up those who aren't what they seem. if memory serves,
The Swede is married but is a flamer

but it's so clearly satirical--it doesn't seem malicious on gaddis'
part (i.e. its what these people do that Gaddis mocks not who they
are)
at least thats how I see it

rich

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> homosexuality is clearly an "issue" in TR, part of "the queer" and
> also part of the 1950s scene.
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> there is a lot of manly joking about it ("he's a closet heterosexual")
> etc., and most of the main male characters (Esther actually thinks
> Wyatt and Otto have a thing) are "suspected" at some point of being
> homosexual, or having such tendencies. and, as in J R, there are some
> actual homosexual characters (The Swede, for example), mostly
> stereotypes that would no doubt get a writer into trouble these days.
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> i am trying to remain bridled but there is a line in the middle of the
> book that kind of sums it up:
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> "--You know, queer. He said he was a writer, and they're always queer nowadays".
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:08 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> When I read their dialogue I constantly wonder why Wyatt would ever
>> have gotten married, and especially to someone like Esther, who can't
>> stand to let him be.  The intro re. his "decision" to marry her is
>> circuitous...  I should read it again.
>>
>> Her line of questioning him at one point comes very close to stating
>> that she suspects Wyatt to be homosexual.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Something (probably not God) has denied Esther and Wyatt the ability to make a "good" choice with regard to their marriage, because they have made quite an "evil" one.  Reason was of no avail.  It served only to conceal.  Deconstruction was not yet a fad, but the first couple paragraphs sound very much like an undermining of life choices.  The logocentricism of it all.  And no Savior to come.
>>
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