eGad: Re: Wracking it Up TRTR, Pt2 C2 p352ff......Partisan Review

Michael Bailey michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Sun Aug 7 05:44:25 CDT 2011


quite belatedly...
fascinating stuff!  Thanks, Mark!



Mark Kohut  wrote:

>  Mary McCarthy was one  of the founders of The Partisan Review. "her
> novel, The Oasis caricatured the circle of intellectuals, including herself,
> around
> Partisan Review.   She and her husband then moved away from NY because "no
> one was speaking to us"....from the bio.
>
>  *From:* Steven Moore <mooresteven at att.net>
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> *Subject:* eGad: Re: Wracking it Up TRTR, Pt2 C2 p352ff......Partisan
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>
>  Mark: I'm sure you're right. I've always been vaguely aware of that
> symposium and always meant to look into it, so thanks for bringing it up.
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
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> *Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:19 PM
> *Subject:* eGad: Wracking it Up TRTR, Pt2 C2 p352ff......Partisan Review
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>
>  p.352..."a small stiff-backed magazine---A symposium on religion! he read
> from the cover."
>
> Almost surely this is an allusion to a mid-1950 [April--June 1950, I
> believe]  issue of The Partisan Review. It is semi-famous.
> I, as lame as some of the characters in TR, have had a copy, bought from
> the street tables of The Strand decades later.
> (Like the lame characters in TR, I liked to waste time with old literary
> magazines....I should be--have been---
> ashamed, smile, but now I can post this knowledge here.....)
>
> Below is a much later summary w tidbits about that symposium. It had many
> of the most famous intellectuals in America, inlcuding
> art critic Clement Greenburg, so into defining the 'necessary genius' of
> the abstract expressionists,most famously and
> where Art should go...the kind of critic who COULD review a work before it
> was published as in this chapter...(I do
> not mean to suggest moral failure in Greenburg, know little, but want to
> suggest he knew the ART world pre-emptively, so
> to speak)
>
> Google it and you will see. Current intellectuals still talking about it,
> good piece in 2009, it seems.
>
>
> Gaddis might agree with this? (about shallowness) and Recognition shows up
> once again:
> "In the 1950s, Partisan Review had a symposium on "Religion and the
> Intellectuals," and most contributors saw through the shallowness of the
> religiosity that would mark the Eisenhower years. Religion is secular rather
> than spiritual, lacking passion and conviction. Will Herberg wrote
> Protestant-Catholic-Jew to demonstrate that religion in America is a
> sociological phenomenon with each denomination affording people their
> identity in a mass society. It could also be used by politicians who
> scarcely knew whereof they spoke. "Recognition of the Supreme Being,"
> declared President Eisenhower in 1955, "is the first, most basic expression
> of Americanism. Without God, there could be no American form of government,
> nor an American way of life."
> -------Political/cultural historian named Diggins (if I haven't mixed this
> up from copy to paste.), I believe, google and confirm if it matters, who
> wrote a
> good book on American Liberalism...........
>
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