today's McLuhan - Pynchon synchronicity tidbit
Mark Kohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 18 07:46:06 CDT 2011
Some aphoristic profundities goin' round here...
Where does McLuhan's consciousness end and these conscious profundities start, i ask?
Anyway, just to say, self-awareness exists among the pre-literate, McLuhan would say, I'm sure. Their
self-consciousness, the landscape of their mind is just very different.
And McLuhan is very interesting on the (current) Electric Age: sez it is a return to pre-literateness
in an essential way.....village-based awareness.....'global village which is aural and visually-based
not print-based as was the Mechanic Age (without which, no the Industrial Revolution)
From: Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
To: Jed Kelestron <jedkelestron at gmail.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: today's McLuhan - Pynchon synchronicity tidbit
Ok!
On Aug 17, 2011 11:44 PM, "Jed Kelestron" <jedkelestron at gmail.com> wrote:
> Self awareness is a dualistic oxymoron.
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> On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Or you could say it is the indivisible totality. Depends on how you define self.
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>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nice.
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>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Jed Kelestron <jedkelestron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Self awareness is a byproduct of thinking created by the ego to give rise to the illusion of a separate self distinct from the indivisible totality for the amusement of the indivisible totality.
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>> On Aug 17, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> If you think of self-awareness, you remove yourself from self-awareness, as self-awareness is prior to thinking.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 'Self-consciousness of the causes and limits of one's own culture
>>> seems to threaten the ego structure and is to be avoided"--
>>> --M. McLuhan 1962-4
>>>
>>> Another book important to the TRP of Gravity's Rainbow, Life Against
>>> Death is one of McLuhan's recommended readings.
>>>
>>> There have been maybe 10-15 citations of Lewis Mumford, esp The City in History
>>> in the first hundred pages....
>>>
>>> and McLuhan, a Canadian and convert to Roman Catholicism actually uses
>>> a Pentecostal metaphor when he writes of computers being able to instantly translate
>>> between languages...'\"the computer, is short, promises by technology a Pentecostal
>>> condition of universal understanding and unity"---p. 80 Understanding Media
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jed Kelestron <jedkelestron at gmail.com>
>>> To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: today's McLuhan - Pynchon synchronicity tidbit
>>>
>>> Literate people think self awareness is a good thing.
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>>> On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > poke of their internalized sensual life....he argues their
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>>> --
>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
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