"You're gonna want cause & effect"---GR

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 18 13:20:42 CDT 2011


It seems to me that this all ties into the discussion we were having about
awareness and self awareness. There is something there that we can't
identify, other than to say that it is "being" or "presence" or "awareness
of presence". We can say, "I'm like this or that", but when we try to find
the source of this or that, it evaporates into nothingness.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:

> Kathryn Hume says, in Pynchon's Mythography, regarding this particular
> subject in GR, "Where Pynchon is most serious and most literal is in
> his insistence on an Other Side, on some kind of irreducible mystery,
> on there being something beyond the world acknowledged by empirical
> method.... We know more or less how gravity, magnetism, and
> electricity work, but not really what they are. We now know there are
> some things we cannot know--the simultaneous momentum and location of
> an electron, for instance. We are philosophically aware that the
> concepts of force and of cause and effect are human projections upon
> the world.... Pynchon seems at times to be creating a metaphoric
> extension of subatomic realities into the quotidian level of
> existence. He knows that the cosmos looks to us as it does because we
> have been taught to see it that way. If another perspective were to
> develop--for instance, if we were to evolve an outlook that valued all
> life, not just human and not just one's self--then the cosmos we would
> see would differ dramatically from what we see now" (85).
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > There are an amazing couple-three sentences in Understanding Media
> > wherein McLuhan basically riffs on that line, virtually uses it without
> the
> > direct address to the reader....or, changing up the metaphor,
> > that concept in the West is the bassline way conceptual logical linearity
> is
> > embodied in our [the West's] language, he sez.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>



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