NP: Alienation and Sedition Act?

[Henry M]

Read the friggin' bill, goddamn it!  Why refer to what people have to say
about it when you can see what it actually says for yourself?

AsB4,
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Henry Mu
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Anders also noted that Sen. Lindsey Graham, a backer of the bill, has said
> multiple times on the Senate floor, including on Tuesday, that American
> citizens should be put into military detention without a lawyer.
>
> Here’s what Sen. Graham said in the Senate on Nov. 17:
>
> “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American
> citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the
> homeland.”
> Anders is troubled by an additional aspect of Section 1031—the part that
> mentions transferring someone “to the custody or control of the person's
> country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.”
>
> The implication, says Anders, is that “if you’re an American citizen and
> were born somewhere else, you can be sent to the country where you were
> born, which you fled, which is out to persecute you.”
>
>
>  in other questions
> Sen. Paul: “My question would be under the provisions would it be possible
> that an American citizen then could be declared an enemy combatant and sent
> to Guantanamo Bay and detained indefinitely.”
>
> Sen. McCain: “I think that as long as that individual, no matter who they
> are, if they pose a threat to the security of the United States of America,
> should not be allowed to continue that threat.”
> On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Henry M wrote:
>
> > S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012,
> > is being attacked by people who, for the most part, haven't read it at
> > all, and also and by firebaggers who are up to their "Dem's are
> > hardly, if at all, better than Repubs so don't vote for them either"
> > tricks.
> >
> > The ACLU, which I practically always agree with, has said “The Senate
> > is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and
> > every future president — the power to order the military to pick up
> > and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world.
> > The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the
> > military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even
> > within the United States itself.” They, and Sen. Mark Udall cite
> > sections are 1031 and 1032 of the bill.
> >
> > Would someone please actually read the sections in question and then
> > explain to me how these they represent a new threat to Americans, or
> > even to "lawful resident aliens." I'd really appreciate it, 'cause I
> > don't see it!  I really would like to understand.  I mean it!
> >
> > http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s1867pcs.pdf
> >
> > AsB4,
> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> > Henry Mu
> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>
>
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