Who reads TP? Goytisolo, yes. And Paul Ricoeur?

Erik T. Burns eburns at gmail.com
Wed Dec 14 03:43:07 CST 2011


here's one from when you were 18:
https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/6492/Mason_Dixon_..?sequence=5

(which meets at the intersection of Pynchon St & Ricoeur Ave)

and another:
http://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/bitstream/10092/2591/1/thesis_fulltext.pdf

YMMV.



On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yet to meet a Grad Student at all vers'd in M&D, tho' 23 m'self....?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would say almost certainly, though he might have picked up the metaphor
>> from the "zeitgeist" around GR ... Many people know the rough sketch of the
>> "plot" of GR without having read it.
>>
>> What's for sure is that _a lot_ of grad students have read both ricoeur
>> and TRP, in re GR as well as other books, notably M&D.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es> wrote:
>>
>> > More than a month back (the end of October) I saw an article in El
>> Pais, a spanish newspaper, by Juan Goytisolo. In it he made mention of his
>> summer reading: "... some French, some Russians, Thomas Pynchon...". Of
>> course this bit of news is not that surprising, it is understandable that a
>> literary figure like Goytisolo might read Pynchon. But not all cases are so
>> clear.
>> >    Recently I have come across one of those cases that forces the
>> Pynchonian reader to choose between connectedness and coincidence. This
>> occurrs in Paul Ricoeur's Time and Narrative vol 1, in chapter 5. Ricoeur
>> draws on Georg Von Wright (Wittgenstein's collegue) to distinguish between
>> causal explanation (cause and effect logic) and causal analysis.     "The
>> adding of teleological explanation to causal explanation is called for by
>> the logic of 'in order that'. Let us set aside the case of
>> quasi-teleological explanation which is only disguised causal explanation,
>> as when we say a wild animal is attracted by its prey, or that a rocket is
>> drawn to its target. (!) The teleological language cannot conceal the fact
>> that the validity of these explanations rests entiriely on the truth of
>> their nomic connections." (p 137)
>> >     The content (a critique of causal logic) along with the example of
>> the rocket would be enough to  catch a GR reader's eye, but the
>> Wittgenstein connection would set the paranoia machine to whirling. I
>> myself took a quick look at the publication date (Editions du Seuil, 1983).
>> Ricouer certainly could have used other examples to make the same point.
>> >     So the question is: did Paul Ricouer read Gravity's Rainbow?
>>
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