A particular JFK speech

Joseph Tracy brook7 at sover.net
Mon Dec 19 23:10:42 CST 2011


O yea. If  Fidel hadn't been warned, those guys would have easily taken over Cuba. No sweat.
This sounds wrong. Concerning he bay of Pigs Kennedy wasn't angry at the press , he was angry at the CIA for trying to pressure him into a war with Cuba. The press is hardly a secret society. More a gossip mongering club with adverts. The CIA was and they had a lot of hate for Kennedy.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Paul Mackin wrote:

> On 12/19/2011 1:30 AM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>> one last point which is probably familiar to everyone here:
>> Kennedy as a Catholic, could not be a Mason.  Longstanding enmity there.
>> 
>> (Church obviously hugely in the wrong vis a vis the St Bartholomew's
>> Day Massacre et al...
>> Truman, 33rd degree Mason, dropping atom bomb not exactly a man of peace either)
>> 
>> So when he said "we" don't like secret societies, secret handshakes,
>> rituals where a giant papier mache owl is burned and cockamamie stuff
>> like that, he obviously wasn't speaking for everyone, was he?
> 
> He was saying, in kind of an oblique way, that we don't like having information withheld from us, of being kept in the dark about things.
> 
> He followed with a big HOWEVER-- sometimes secrecy is desirable.
> 
> The Bay of Pigs invasion had just failed miserably. Part of the reason was that enough information was revealed in the press that Fidel had advance knowledge of the date of the landing.
> 
> He was asking that the Press show more restraint with respect to information that the Cold War enemy could use.
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