shaved his upper lip every morning three times with, three times against the grain
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Wed Dec 28 11:52:21 CST 2011
I think it's clearly a fucked up sentence that relies on the impossible double duty of the word "with" and punctuation that doesn't clue the reader to the pauses in a plausible reading . It doesn't approximate speech or thought and is not logically constructed grammar that can be clearly parsed with extra attention.
What follows is how I think it is intended to be heard/understood.
> Mucho shaved his upper lip every morning- three times with, three times
> against the grain to remove any remotest breath of a moustache; with new
> blades he drew blood invariably but kept at it.
There are clearly 2 independent clauses here with no conjunction and no semicolon or dash. The word "with" cannot be both a preposition referring to the grain of his moustache, and the start of a different prepositional phrase introducing an additional clause.
If this is deliberate, it is almost as if Pynchon is showing how a writer can no more remove certain grammatical indicators completely than Mucho can remove completely a part of his skin. Curiously the semi-colon removed is both whisker and cut-off whisker.
On Dec 28, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Dave Monroe wrote:
>
>
> Mucho shaved his upper lip every morning three times with, three times
> against the grain to remove any remotest breath of a moustache, new
> blades he drew blood invariably but kept at it.
>
> I get the meaning, but the whole sentence is quite unreadable (what
> are, grammatically speaking, those new blades?). It feels wrong. Well,
> it is wrong... at least by any standard known to me. Could with be
> referred both to the grain and to new blades? This is the only
> explanation I could come up with, besides a typo which is highly
> unlikely (what with Pynchon being Pynchon). I mean:
>
> Mucho shaved his upper lip every morning three times with, three times
> against the grain to remove any remotest breath of a moustache.
>
> is pretty much clear and doesn't require any explanation.
>
> Mucho shaved his upper lip every morning three times with new blades;
> he drew blood invariably but kept at it.
>
> is clear as well, and sounds like something written by a schoolboy .
> The two sentences put together give the meaning I believe the author
> was trying to convey. What do you think?
>
> http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2321945&p=11658038
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