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Carpenter's Gothic might be doable-

http://www.williamgaddis.org/gothic/gothicrevozicknyt.shtml


-----Original Message-----
From: Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>
To: Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: Re:


I'm kind of also betting that a group read of The Recognitions won't 
get off the ground here, more declaring my interest than anything else. 
As you know, I haven't exactly been a vital contributor to ANY of the 
group reads here (except for the moral contribution of reading them 
carefully and enjoying them immensely, as I do most Pynchon-L 
activity). 
 
Meanwhile, TRP was a songwriter? News to me, aside from the many songs 
scattered throughout the works -- what other songs did he write?
 
etb  


On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen 
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:



On 07.02.2011 12:07, Erik T. Burns wrote:


No, I'm questioning the idea that since Gaddis likes lengthy dialogues 
he should have been a playwright. That's like saying because Pynchon 
likes songs he should have been a songwriter...


And Tom was one for some time ... But back to Gaddis: To me these 
lengthy dialogues - unlike those in the Magic Mountain - are no fun to 
read at all. And that 'Guess who's talking?'-trick is tiresome and 
cheap. Uwe Johnson, who did this too in his early novels, had to drop 
it in order to write his phantastic opus magnum "Jahrestage" (four 
volumes). But if the dialogues in "JR" do please you, I have no problem 
with that. And if the list goes on and on and on and on to do 'group 
reads', I most certainly cannot stop that. This is a free list. It's 
just the Social Foo-Foo around 'group reads' which is turning me off 
profoundly. Not your fault, Erik, I know. And it's true that once a 
'group read' has started, I now and then throw in a dime. Wouldn't be 
possible in this particular case, though. But hey, an US-sociologist 
predicted the death of mailing-lists already in 2007, yet the 
Pynchon-list still keeps on rocking, so maybe this kindergarten game 
called 'group read' has some "latent function" that escapes me in
this very moment ...

Doing my own thing,

Kai




 
Listening to the _J R_ audiobook in particular emphasizes how 
un-play-like the dialogues in that book are.  
 
Anyway, Gaddis did write a drama, based on _Agapé Agape_; performed 
only in German, on the radio: 
http://www.phonostar.de/radiomagazin/radioprogramm/detail.php?id=228&datum=2011-02-19

 
 
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen 
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:


Because of Oscar Crease, you supadupa Gaddis freak ...



On 06.02.2011 23:18, Erik T. Burns wrote:


>All these lengthy dialogues, perhaps Gaddis should have become a 
playwright himself ...


Er, why?





On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen 
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:


I don't like his style.

Being interested in the sociology of law, I read about 120 pages of "A 
Frolic of His Own".

All these lengthy dialogues, perhaps Gaddis should have become a 
playwright himself ...

KFL