Zizek/ Wikileaks

[Ian Livingston]

Uh, I'm a free-marketer?

People at more basic stages of development are not without values, nor
are they utterly unconscious. People simply have to grow through
stages of development, and there is no rule about when someone might
stop developing, whether by choice, ignorance or for some other
reason. The groups you cite here are primarily concerned with narrowly
defined ethnocentrism. They believe their group is the group that has
the right answers about how to interpret events and respond to them.
Even they, if they have the intelligence, may eventually see a larger
slice of the pie and hunger to become more effectually involved in
bettering the world they perceive according to broader terms.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Richard Fiero <rfiero at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian Livingston wrote:
>>
>> > I can't find any examples of this but can easily identify several
>> > counterexamples: the presidency of George W Bush, Sarah Palin and the
>> > resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan, the Vietnam war, Iraq and Afghanistan,
>> > and
>> > so on.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you saying the Ku Klux Klan is an
>> example of an individual that develops a values system independently
>> of a group he or she admires? And that George Bush and Sarah Palin are
>> likewise examples of the same?
>
> . . .
> These are people who do not have values but have had some popularity
> certainly not due to consciousness but to the funding behind them as they
> shill for the plutocrats.
> There is nothing conscious at work here. This is motivation by animal
> spirits that work quite well under the rules of a fair game. The only
> consciousness here is making the rules fair. No biting, no punching below
> the belt, ballots instead of bullets and so on. That part is an anathema to
> all you free marketers.
>
>



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