Thanks again for Dylan suggestions

[Robert Mahnke]

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On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Albert Rolls <alprolls at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Mahnke
> Sent: Jul 5, 2011 5:28 PM
> To: Mark Kohut
> Cc: edmoorester at gmail.com, pynchon -l
> Subject: Re: Thanks again for Dylan suggestions
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> I don't know copyright law, but I find it bizarre that quote a couplet or quatrain or some song lines wouldn't be considered fair use.
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> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> I don't know music but I do know that "Tangled Up In Blue"
>> is about Bobby and Joni Mitchell, who did BLUE (an album).
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>> Joni is one of the toughest protectors of her song lines around.
>> Almost never gives permission to use.....we all knew that a
>> couplet (or quatrain) from a Mitchell song was in the reading copy
>> of Gravity's Rainbow but is not in the published book.
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>> I know of a whole first printing of a decent novel which a publishing house
>> had to 'recall", never ship, pulp, because permision for some song lines
>> were not gotten and she learned and demanded it.
>>
>> She's a fierce artist..........
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>> ________________________________
>> From: "edmoorester at gmail.com" <edmoorester at gmail.com>
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 1:02:04 AM
>> Subject: Thanks again for Dylan suggestions
>>
>> Joe Allonby wrote:
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>> "Try "Tangled Up in Blue". It's a nice exercise for the major-sus4-sus2
>> figure that pops up in a lot of songs and the narrative makes it
>> easier to remember the lyrics."
>>
>> I got hooked on Lennon's "Happy Xmas" which has a similar major
>> -sus4-sus2 pattern and "Tangled up in Blue" will work nicely esp
>> because I learned a lot of those chords already. . cool!
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>> "Cool thing about "Hurricane": the opening lines read like stage
>> directions in a play. Present tense. Describing the action of the
>> characters and setting the scene. Pistol shots ring out...Enter Patty
>> Ballantine from the other hall... It's an interesting technique."
>>
>> Huh. . .it is cool just to look at how Dylan sets up the story.
>>
>> A lot of times exposition in movies esp bore me to tears
>> but because I only watch dvds (hate paying 9 bucks in theaters)
>> I have learned the fast forward button with captioning!
>>
>> ed