Misc.Appetizer, to invigorate posters into reacting, kinda like chum....

[Richard Ryan]

You're referring to the following, Mark?  Just read the first few graphs
(and haven't read the Updike novel, "Toward the End of Time", under review)
but it does, indeed, look brutal.....

http://www.badgerinternet.com/~bobkat/observer1.html

Intriguingly, the Wikipedia entry for "Toward the End of Time" mentions both
the DFW review and a much more favorable Margaret Atwood appraisal.  Makes
one want to read the contested text....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toward_the_End_of_Time


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> yeah,,,,,that might be my first enemy-making charge: his fiction is
> sometimes nicely embroidered non-fiction
> and stand-up comic set pieces..........
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> Except that I think his famous essay on a late Updike novel, reprinted
> often, is ...........simply wrong.
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> And, he is more like Updike, sea-changed, than he ever would admit...
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> "Yu think I diss Updike, you shoudda heard Wallace"----Franzen on book
> tour..........
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>  *From:* Richard Ryan <himself at richardryan.com>
> *To:* Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Misc.Appetizer, to invigorate posters into reacting, kinda
> like chum....
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> Haven't tried DFW's fiction yet. His essays are quite wonderful.  I've been
> avoiding the fiction out of fear that the numerous dissenters are right, but
> ultimately one must decide for oneself, no?
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> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>  before I start posting on TR, Pt2, C2.....
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> Have been reading Infinite Jest.  He ain't no Pynchon.
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> And I'd rather reread Gaddis; infinitely deeper (and depth matters) ; and
> read many other less proclaimed writers.
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> I mean.....some set pieces of non-infinite pleasure and insight.....into
> depression, say,
> (but done better by Styron).......and a few other
> things....................
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> Refute me flamingly.............
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> Richard Ryan
> New York and the World
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New York and the World
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him. The
unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself. All progress
depends on the unreasonable man." - Shaw
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