TRTR Wreckingnitions Crew comes back

[Mark Kohut]

Cfabel writes: 
 I
guess I just keep coming back to the idea that what is extolled in TR is
"exteriority;" the exteriority of meaning, of meaning only in lived, direct
experience. 

And will continue to elaborate, i, for one, hope...

I want to believe....

C. F. Abel
Chair
Department of Government
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, Texas 75962
(936) 468-3903




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C'mon everyone...have you reread this section? 

speculations:     There are no bad Annunciations....!
yeah, getting The Word, Pentecostal tongues is so wonderful, that content
trumps all style........

But. outside of that, we have art that is "increased powers of
eyesight"...Sees Reality heightened?.....Projects a World? 
Since pure reality is not ..what?...sublime enough? 

'another blue day"...simply another blue day of reality 'doesn't quite"
[do it? have it? IS it?]...that simple life, when heightened, loses its
reality?  

the late John Leoanrd in a long NYRof Books review of five new American
novels---all I can remember besides what I am going to write below is that
one was by Chabon---- wrote something like........

That the meaning, height, of life is just existing, playing ball on a
perfect summer night sums up what many of our best writers seem to
believe...

I remind us all of that 'perfect picnic' day in Against the Day and I think
of Dandelion Wine perhaps allusively buried in Lot49 and is this the same
(but different) in The Recognitions?
 
http://www.beaconbroadside.com/broadside/2011/06/mary-oliver-reads-the-summe
r-day.html



 


----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>; pynchon-l at waste.org
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 11:08:11 AM
Subject: Re: TRTR Wreckingnitions Crew comes back

On 6/21/2011 8:48 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
> Premise
> So, do we agree that almost all the remarks made about art or Art by 
> the minor more sick crew in TR is satiric, to score off them, people 
> like
them?

yeah, a lot of them are pretentious snobs about all their laboriously
acquired European culture.  The fifties had a lot of that.  Serious music,
art, psychoanalysis.  Forgive me, Gaddis admirers, but I sometime feel it's
not just the characters that display this trait but the author himself. 
True, literate reader DO enjoy seeing and recognizing all those famous lines
of poetry and philosophical and theological treatises, but doesn't it tend
to detract a little 

of what a novel should do. Of course that's the question, what SHOULD  a
novel do.  To quote a famous GR line, anything you want it to do.
> 
> But not (necessarily) when Wyatt, Basil Valentine and say Recktall, 
>philistine  manipulative businessman talk about it, correct? 
>.....[doing business is being  in touch with reality and  "some say it 
>is only through being evil that one touches reality....AND business  
>could live so powerfully independent

the prisons of the country are filled with authentic people. Also the
boardrooms.
> of every other faculty of the human intelligence]. Strong words.
> 
> Now hold that thought and add the discusssion on p238 ff about 
> 'projective art'....."increased powers of eyesight"
> and that 'another blue day' ....."because the blue, it doesn't 
> quite,....it isn't"....
> 
> What's that all about?
>