Dreyfus (was Re: The bizarre Nazi book craze)

[Michael F]

Please, excuse the choppy nature of my last post; I was on a public
computer and had a few difficulties.  As I wanted to continue with, I
never thought twice about viewing Dreyfus in such a way, but after
reading the book, which was a joint effort, I was disturbed.  To an
extent, the book is irresponsible in the lack of attention given to
ethics.  A "Philosopher" can not address particular issues and ignore
others.

Getting back to the topic, according to Kelly and Dreyfus, all human
behavior is a sort of "craze".

Mike F.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Michael F <mff8785 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not by any means saying that Dreyfus doesn't attend to the
> material questions of our day, or to the field of his choosing, which
> is technology.  Listening to any of his lectures available on the net
> or even listening to him at Berkeley makes this obvious(I've listened
> to him on the net and in person at Berkeley-up close and at a
> distance).  My problem is that he doesn't attend to the "human"
> questions: the desire for "being" in a qualitative sense, which a few
> humans still ask, and if you don't see this as the focus of human
> thought, we will find no meeting ground and may be best to discontinue
> the discussion.  Deleuze and Foucault aren't on my reading lists
> anymore.
>
> Mike
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>
>> Yes. I'm waiting for that too. Though it's years ago, I still remember well
>> the illuminating effect "Beyond Structuralism and Hermeneutics" (co-author:
>> Paul Rabinow) had on my understanding of Foucault, who himself considered it
>> to be an accurate introduction to his thinking. Only the study Deleuze did
>> after Foucault's death reaches the level of the one by Dreyfus/Rabinow.
>>
>> KFL
>>
>> On 18.03.2011 19:32, Richard Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>> Dreyfus begs "for brainwashing ideology to take over the population or
>>> masses"?  I've been reading and listening to Dreyfus for years,
>>> studied with one of his leading students (Charles Guignon) and I've
>>> never heard anything remotely like that.  Perhaps you could cite some
>>> some specific texts?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Michael F<mff8785 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No.  The most famous name, and the longest tenured Philosophy prof at
>>>> UC Berkeley, Prof. Hubert Dreyfus, and the Chair of the Philosophy
>>>> Department at Harvard, Prof. Sean Dorrance Kelley, are staunch
>>>> Heideggerians.  Like many in the West, they prescribe to a line of
>>>> thought that not just permits, but begs for brainwashing ideology to
>>>> take over the population or masses.  I heard them speak last week and
>>>> was quite astonished by what I heard(and also by what I have read by
>>>> the two of them).  "We" the good citizens are too busy going after Leo
>>>> Strauss and Carl Schmitt, who in fact try to warn us of impending
>>>> "nihilism".
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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