Baracck Obama on bin Laden, Nobel Speech

[rich]

re-reading Kershaw's monumnetal biography of Hitler (fyi--the one
volume re-release is alot easier to get through for us non-academics.
I usually think more is better but in this case I've liked what
Kershaw has done)

Anyway, reading about the German generals and army high command:
pretty much they all agreed to the war of annihilation in the east
after grumbling a bit about in Poland. Two reasons: one, many believed
in the mission, the eradication of jewish-bolshevism, living space,
etc. but more importantly, they were trying to keep as much control as
they could from the encoraching SS and security forces. they saw what
happened in Poland and adjusted accordingly.

the myth of the Wehrmacht being innocent of all those atrocities is no
longer valid. if did take Germany a while to realize this. Of course,
it will take awhile for Americans to realize that lots of bad shit
happened in Iraq and Afghanistan that wasnt just a bunch of rogues
chopping off ears and killing innocents. it's more widespread

rich

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Michael Bailey
<michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies.
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> a non-violent movement among Hitler's soldiers could certainly have
> halted Hitler's armies
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> then too you could get a kid with a tin drum...
>