Pynchon/Hillman

[Paul Mackin]

On 11/1/2011 4:20 PM, Paul Mackin wrote:
> On 11/1/2011 2:31 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>> Thanks for the archival blasts.......
>> I am sure we all could have a(nother) long discussion on the meaning 
>> of "a divided self' as the rhetorical
>> question is posed here, but I think Pynchon's self, if divided once, 
>> like many of us, has been unified in
>> most of the important ways for a long time now.......
>> I base this, again, unscientific speculation on the lifelong rough 
>> coherence of his vision, imho, although
>> I could be divided against myself in a collapsing house.....
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> I'm sure there is split opinion on the p-list, but would Pynchon ever 
> want to be associated with anything as "systematic" as an "Integrated 
> personality?"
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Come to think of it, "divided self" was probably a very poor choice of 
words, since that was the title of R. D. Laing's first essay. I didn't 
mean to imply our author was in any way psychotic or paranoid, even in 
the sense that Laing later come to see things.

It's  the fiction that I'm interested in.  Systems fail, ideologies 
fail, missions fail, we all fail.

To think otherwise is a paranoid delusion of Them.

Still there is Hope.

P


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>> *From:* Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>> *To:* Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>; pynchon-l at waste.org
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:25 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Pynchon/Hillman
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>> On 11/1/2011 1:07 PM, Paul Mackin wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2011 12:41 PM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen wrote:
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>>>>> I know nothing about any real relationship.
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>>>> The relation was discussed here several times since the late 1990s.
>>> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9906&msg=39435&keywords=hillman
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>> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9906&msg=39433&sort=date
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>> T. F.  is still with us in spirit.  Watch the flickering flame.
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>>>> The idea that Pynchon may had gone to Hillman for treatment was 
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>>>> two years ago by a certain Mark Kohut :-(
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>>>> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0912&msg=146008&sort=date
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>>>> "Hillman lived and practiced in California during crucial years of TRP's tim=
>>>> e there. He could have met him; been led to him.......
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>>>> I have wondered, silently, if he .....went....to him professionally."
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