atd - Webb's little candle
Paul Mackin
mackin.paul at verizon.net
Mon Sep 5 15:52:20 CDT 2011
On 9/5/2011 3:45 PM, alice wellintown wrote:
>> mistakes were made
>> but the labor movement is responsible for a lot of good
> The American Labor movement is, and it primarily has been, and
> especially since the 1920s, a working-class movement outside of the
> broad steam of socialist thought. The class struggle, existed,
> primarily in the early rhetoric of the movement, but rarely in
> operating principal. American Labor has been and remains, depite what
> Robert Reich says in the Times today, deeply rooted in pure and simple
> economic unionism. Bread and Butter, a conservative unionism has been
> our history and every major successful labor leader since Gumpers,
> even the patron saints of industrial unionism. Lewis, Murray, Reuther
> were conservatives. Even the left-wing unions, with Marxist Leaders,
> were conservative, economic unionists. What developed here is business
> unionism. So private property and the market are viewed as fundamental
> and beneficial, foundations of economic life in America. It was never
> the case, not is it now, that business and markets were the
> evil-doers, but capitalism must be tempered by organized labor. BTW,
> Organized Labor was dismantled and Dismembered, not by Presidents or
> CEOs, but by Labor itself. This is what Pynchon writes about .
>
And don't anyone tell ya different.
There was one very interesting connection between organized labor and
the Soviet Union. . Before Pearl Harbor the American war build up was
still controversial. Many thought the U.S. ought to keep clear of the
whole European mess. Not organized labor however. After Germany
invaded Russia in 1941, Labor stood strongly behind FDR's effort to
prepare the U.S. to eventually enter the war. Not saying this was all
due to "the worker's paradise myth." But there WAS much good will.
The American war effort changed everything for American workers. Even
teen age kids like me. I actually became a union member in order to work
swing shift at Douglas El Segundo.
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