Back to AtD....Tungaska Event, [in late 700s pages]

[bandwraith at aol.com]

Right. It can be extended along the secular
axis, as well, to include a healthy suspicion
of anyone vehemently seeking one's
support or consent- especially in areas of
potentially dangerous committment- in the
eyes of established authority.

This discussion could range from the tactics
of informants/snitches:

 "And... why's he yelling at Nixon like
   that again?"

attempting to infiltrate and undermine
dissent, to the debates over paradigm
shifts in "the received wisdom" of the day,
i.e., scientific, as well as, religious dogma.

 "I don't think so," Penny muttered. "It's that
    Chucky."

Which is not to say that the "received wisdom"
doesn't need to be overthrown now and again,
but "wolves" tend to play both sides, and feed
on chaos, like Tungaska, which represents
opportunities for both, not just capitalists.

Humor helps. Keep cool but care.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>; P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2012 8:12 am
Subject: Re: Back to AtD....Tungaska Event, [in late 700s pages]



p. 784 "Siberian wolves walked into churches in the middle of services,
quoted passages from the Scriptures in fluent Old Slavonic, and walked
peaceably
out again. They were reported to be especially fond of Matthew 7:15,
"Beware of
false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,but inwardly are
ravening
wolves."
 
Hilarious, I think and another take on a steady, deeppersistent theme
of AtD---how righteous
self-justifying religious espousal masks much evil that goes down in
the world....
 
And wolves go way back as a trope: "Man is a wolf to man."




From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Back to AtD....Tungaska Event, [in late 700s pages]


Wonderin' if you could elaborate on those wolves a bit.
On Mar 31, 2012, at 2:55 PM, bandwraith at aol.com wrote:

> Partial to wolves speakin' The Gospel, myself.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
> To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 31, 2012 1:37 pm
> Subject: Re: Back to AtD....Tungaska Event, [in late 700s pages]
>
>
> Seems like the essence of the "word"  that explodes their world is
something
> along the lines of' 'you are on a ball in space, vulnerable, open to
the cosmos,
> wake up from the limits of your mammalian bodies, your territorial
wars, your
> boys adventure stories." It happens at a time when  science is the
new common
> global language, close on the heels of Einstein's publication of
theories that
> made gravity vanish, based on thought experiments of the motion of
particles of
> light through space, ideas that will bring new explosive dimensions
to the word
> 'atomic' and 'enlightenment'. It happens at a time when the events
can be
> understood in a non superstitious way.
>
> I feel in general Pynchon is pointing out that humans more easily
achieve a
> change of information than a change of consciousness or  mammalian
habit. That
> despite all the promise of cultural transformation burgeoning in
western
> civilization at the turn of that century, the habit of war exercised
enough
> gravitational pull to bind Europe in the bloody mud graves of WW1 and
aerial
> flames of WW2.
>
> Hot year coming up.
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>
>> p. 793 The Tugaska Event reveals "the sacred City".....
>> the Chums "took longer to understand that the great burst of light
>> had also torn the veil separating their own space from that of the
>> everyday world"......they had met the same fate as Shambala,
>> their protection lost"...
>>
>> ..."gravity itself for a moment simply vanished"
>>
>> All textual clues to the immateriality of the Event...
>>
>> The Event = like a religious Visitation revealing the sacred?
>> Like the Pentecostal Word exploding above everyone's heads?
>>
>> Essay question: How is the Tungaska Event, therefore, similar
>> and dissimilar from the Rocket in GR?
>