Atdtda34: a Singularity

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 16 06:54:14 CDT 2012


Tunguska, tunguska, tunguska.........
 
Thanks.
 
I should double-check everything but there is too much to read and post and I'm old already....

From: Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com>; "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: Atdtda34: a Singularity


Maybe a minor note in this discussion, but it's Tunguska with a "u". Went looking for info on the net...

What would infinite gravity mean? The center point, or anti-point, of the black hole? The ultimate bathtub drain?


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

"It begins to look like a singularity"--Dr. Vanderjuice, p.797
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>[Technological] Singularity with modern associations went wide around 1993, as SFwriter VignorVerge [VV's!!]
>popularized it....Seen as an "intellectual event horizon"....gotta be a major meaning of TRPs,beyond gravitational singularity as metaphor--altho look at all
>that THAT carries including infinite gravity!.... 
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>Technological singularity refers to the hypothetical future emergence of greater-than-human intelligence through technological means.[1] Since the capabilities of such intelligence would be difficult for an unaided human mind to comprehend, the occurrence of a technological singularity is seen as an intellectual event horizon, beyond which events cannot be predicted or understood.---from wikipedia article
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>resonates all the way to The Trespassers maybe? 
>A gravitational singularity (sometimes called a spacetime singularity) is a place in a black hole where the gravity is thought to be infinite. Most scientists do not think that it is actually infinite, but it is useful for their maths to treat it like it is.
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>can AtD's Tungaska Event carry all these meanings or did TRP get a bit balloonish? "little lame
>balloon man"--ee cummings
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>From: Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com>
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:45 AM
>Subject: Atdtda34: Nobody knows, 964-965
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>The previous section reports what must be ongoing conversations about the
>war. There was a clear contrast between 'a bright future ahead' and the war
>that Reef/Yashmeen/Ljubica are, evidently, following; this point is
>reiterated in the opening line of this section, dialogue that puts the
>protagonists at the centre of the action (where, previously, they were
>marginal to it). Here, their subjective outlook ('what I know where I am,
>now') is at odds with a more generalised account; until the final paragraph
>on 965, where people are replaced by armies, the labels that confirm the
>status of this or that unit, there is a refusal to allow an authoritative
>narrative to simply tell the war-story.
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>Moreover, 'the horizon of the unimaginable' (964) perhaps reminds us of both
>'the storm of fearful hearsay' (963) and Reef's inability 'to express his
>feelings to Cyprian' (961). The way the two men communicate, or don't, is
>tied to the way the war is constructed as something that is known about but
>elusive.
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>Top of 965, Reef/Yashmeen/Ljubica intrude on the 'major battle' that is
>announced here: what we see described are 'processions across the plains
>...' etc, while the 'Krupps guns thumping in the distance' are as close as
>we get to military action. The 'temporary packs' of dogs stand in for armies
>similarly concerned to take advantage of the situation: like Reef in the
>previous section, they are scavengers, of course.
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