Atdtda34: a Singularity

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 16 07:25:39 CDT 2012


Of course, that's on a personal scale as opposed to a universal one, or
planetary, I suppose.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gotcha. I'm a single dad with two kids. Hence the lack of time to fully
> participate here...
>
> The biggest event horizon must be our own death.
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> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Tunguska, tunguska, tunguska.........
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I should double-check everything but there is too much to read and post
>> and I'm old already....
>>
>>   *From:* Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com>; "pynchon-l at waste.org" <
>> pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 7:35 AM
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>> *Subject:* Re: Atdtda34: a Singularity
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>> Maybe a minor note in this discussion, but it's Tunguska with a "u". Went
>> looking for info on the net...
>>
>> What would infinite gravity mean? The center point, or anti-point, of the
>> black hole? The ultimate bathtub drain?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  "It begins to look like a singularity"--Dr. Vanderjuice, p.797
>>
>> [Technological] Singularity with modern associations went wide around
>> 1993, as SFwriter VignorVerge [VV's!!]
>> popularized it....Seen as an "intellectual event horizon"....gotta be a
>> major meaning of TRPs,beyond gravitational singularity as metaphor--altho
>> look at all
>> that THAT carries including infinite gravity!....
>>
>> Technological singularity refers to the hypothetical future emergence of
>> greater-than-human intelligence through technological means.[1] Since the
>> capabilities of such intelligence would be difficult for an unaided human
>> mind to comprehend, the occurrence of a technological singularity is seen
>> as an intellectual event horizon, beyond which events cannot be predicted
>> or understood.---from wikipedia article
>>
>> resonates all the way to The Trespassers maybe?
>> A gravitational singularity (sometimes called a spacetime singularity) is
>> a place in a black hole where the gravity is thought to be infinite. Most
>> scientists do not think that it is actually infinite, but it is useful for
>> their maths to treat it like it is.
>>
>> can AtD's Tungaska Event carry all these meanings or did TRP get a bit
>> balloonish? "little lame
>> balloon man"--ee cummings
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>> From: Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com>
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:45 AM
>> Subject: Atdtda34: Nobody knows, 964-965
>>
>> The previous section reports what must be ongoing conversations about the
>> war. There was a clear contrast between 'a bright future ahead' and the
>> war
>> that Reef/Yashmeen/Ljubica are, evidently, following; this point is
>> reiterated in the opening line of this section, dialogue that puts the
>> protagonists at the centre of the action (where, previously, they were
>> marginal to it). Here, their subjective outlook ('what I know where I am,
>> now') is at odds with a more generalised account; until the final
>> paragraph
>> on 965, where people are replaced by armies, the labels that confirm the
>> status of this or that unit, there is a refusal to allow an authoritative
>> narrative to simply tell the war-story.
>>
>> Moreover, 'the horizon of the unimaginable' (964) perhaps reminds us of
>> both
>> 'the storm of fearful hearsay' (963) and Reef's inability 'to express his
>> feelings to Cyprian' (961). The way the two men communicate, or don't, is
>> tied to the way the war is constructed as something that is known about
>> but
>> elusive.
>>
>> Top of 965, Reef/Yashmeen/Ljubica intrude on the 'major battle' that is
>> announced here: what we see described are 'processions across the plains
>> ...' etc, while the 'Krupps guns thumping in the distance' are as close as
>> we get to military action. The 'temporary packs' of dogs stand in for
>> armies
>> similarly concerned to take advantage of the situation: like Reef in the
>> previous section, they are scavengers, of course.
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