NP - Toryism (Austerity) Isn't Working.

Ian Livingston igrlivingston at gmail.com
Sat Apr 28 16:21:09 CDT 2012


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_Towns

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> I doubt we have yet entered the winter of global capitalism; so far we
> have just seen the big hole where the golden fang will be buried.. By the
> way I personally am ok with any system* that is ecologically sustainable
> and reasonably fair/just non-exploitive. That fair thing is really not just
> a moral issue, it's practical, humans evolved for millennia with sensible
> communal instincts.  The  current model of extractive growth and domination
> by military/economic exploitation has major problems and can only continue
> via a gruesome high tech feudalism.  That's the mindset of the US
> government , but such arrangements are clearly not viable at this time as
> Afghanistan, Vietnam, South America  Europe all show.    The corrupt
> america-modeled military-backed multi-national empire has to be cut down to
> size.  Reform does not look promising.   These big centralized
> bureaucracies will either make the planet uninhabitable or be replaced by
> smaller units of coherent culture, geography, and economic vitality.
>
> Where will the big changes come from? Violent  weather, eco-disasters,
> resistance to the hegemony of the dollar,  rising oceans, margin calls,
>  democracy and human rights movements, cost of energy, national
> bankruptcies, huge numbers of unemployed, resource battles( water, metals,
> rare earths, land, housing), tax resistance and more extreme actions.
>
>
> *(Paul Hawkin and Amory Lovins , borrowing heavily from Bill Mcdonough
> wrote an interesting book called natural capitalism that proposed a system
> which integrates principles of sustainability and eco-harmony with
> capitalism.They make a case for how it could work but the momentum of the
> existing system is not based on  rational decision making and there is no
> political interest in a harmonious balanced  long term economic system. )
>
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Paul Mackin wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> > If Winter's here can Spring be far behind
> >
> > p
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>


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the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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