Mind-Bending Science In Thomas Pynchon's Mind-Bending Novel Against The Day

alice wellintown alicewellintown at gmail.com
Fri Aug 10 13:02:31 CDT 2012


what is best here is when we digress and weave or knot progressively
into; so mind-blending and bending is beautifil and blessed (to quote
yeats, or boyle, i forgit). we must laugh and sing and find the
pressure of beakers boyled to the brim.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:37 PM, alice wellintown
<alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> No no, this is waste, we all poop here; nothing to it. Poop away. Like
> those folks who get pooped on from the chums and his trusty mut, I am
> amazed by scatalogicals from space.
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Party pooper....
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:13 PM, alice wellintown
>> <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did the early 20th C readers of Joseph Conrad call him a poet who
>>> mines the sciences and the political sciences and so on to  set them
>>> in a human context? Look to The Secret Agent, a novel that certainly
>>> was mined by Pynchon, a novel that Conrad has written a good deal
>>> about, and, like P, rejected the critical readings of, claiming, as P
>>> does about science, entropy and so forth, that he has no knowledge of
>>> these topics above what any intelligent person could not take from
>>> books that are easy enough to read at the local library?Now, I have no
>>> rue objection to calling P a poet, although he is not one, although,
>>> he once considered the art, as he did the art of writing plays, a
>>> profession he wished he might make a go at. We do not call Shakespeare
>>> a novelist. Yes, the history of the form does, in an English manner,
>>> spring from his plays some years later, but Avon Bill retired to
>>> Stratford as an author of plays and poems. P is novelist. Nothing
>>> wrong wiht that. In fact, if one can write as well as Pynchon does,
>>> after GR, there is something very right about that. So why belittle
>>> the profession. It is not rocket science. Not even poetry. It is
>>> fiction. And,as the Sloth essay Mr P published and the Luddite essay
>>> he published attest, an author, an author of some playful child of
>>> American Romance, of Luddite Fictions, is not fit to sit at the Royal
>>> Society Table. Well, he may not wear purplle, but he writes it better
>>> than any Rocket Scientist, even if he must turn sour grapes into
>>> purple, violet, and lime, prose.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > "Pynchon's achievement in Against the Day proves that he is peerless as
>>> > a
>>> > poet who can mine science for gems of insight and set them into the
>>> > context
>>> > of the humanity that is the ultimate concern of his novels."
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> This is cool. Thanks, Dave.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Prashant Kumar
>>> >> <siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Do read the comments as well. Monte and others point out a few
>>> >>> infelicities in the presentation.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> P.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 10 August 2012 12:49, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thank you Mr. Monroe and THANK YOU Mr. White... a very helpful
>>> >>>> "primer"
>>> >>>> for the woefully Science-Illiterate...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dave Monroe
>>> >>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Mind-Bending Science In Thomas Pynchon's Mind-Bending Novel Against
>>> >>>>> The Day: Part I
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> http://www.science20.com/adaptive_complexity/mindbending_science_thomas_pynchons_mindbending_novel_against_day_part_i-8804
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Mind-Bending Science In Thomas Pynchon's Mind-Bending Novel Against
>>> >>>>> The Day: Part II - The Quaternion Wars
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> http://www.science20.com/adaptive_complexity/mind_bending_science_in_thomas_pynchons_mind_bending_novel_against_the_day_part_ii_the_quaternion_wars
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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