A Good Grace is Hardly Found

[David Morris]

Never say never, but his funny quotient is far, far lower than OConner's.
 He's brooding. She's not.

My favorite Faulkner is Light in August.  I don't remember any funny
scenes, but there may be.  I've read As I Lay Dying, and the funny there is
very much a comedy of errors.  OConner's funny is much more over the top.

 All that said, I think Faulkner is In a class of American Fiction authors
of less than 5 others at the very top, and are contenders in the earlier
world too.

David Morris

On Saturday, December 1, 2012, wrote:

> Faulkner was never funny??  Have you never read The Hamlet?  Or, in a
> different vein, As I Lay Dying?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'fqmorris at gmail.com');>>
> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'malignd at aol.com');>>
> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 9:45 pm
> Subject: Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
>
>  FO is IMO akin to Faulkner, Southern Gothic.  But Faulkner was never camp
> or funny.  OConner was more modern, maybe proto POMO.
>
> On Friday, November 30, 2012, wrote:
>
>> I get it, but I wouldn't ever cross my mind to compare either to
>> Flannery,  Didion's journalism is quite good; her fiction not so much.  I
>> read a boxing article by JCO once that was good, but her fiction is ... not
>> to my taste, let's say.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: robertberg5125 <robertberg5125 at comcast.net>
>> To: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>; pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:47 am
>> Subject: Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
>>
>>  Not sure about jumping in this thread but one of my worst 2 or 3 reads
>> in the last, oh, 61 years have been J Didion/ J Carol Oates downers I kept
>> waiting to let me off the hook.
>>
>> *Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless*
>>
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>>
>> *From: *kelber at mindspring.com*
>> To: *pynchon-l at waste.org*
>> Sent: *Thu, Nov 29, 2012 15:54:14 GMT+00:00*
>> Subject: *Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
>>
>>  As a person who struggles with severe bouts of depression, I avoid
>> relentlessly-depressing writers like O'Connor. Had to read her in high
>> school (Everything That Rises Must Converge), and vowed I'd never willingly
>> subject myself to her darkness again. As a rabid Pynchon fan, I'm not
>> looking for fluffy feel-good shit. But I don't want to read a series of
>> stories whose sole purpose is to prove, however eloquently or wittily, that
>> everything sucks. I'm also wary of novelists who throw in gratuitous
>> horrors to give their otherwise tepid work dramatic weight. Which novelists
>> am I talking about? I don't even know - I avoid writers who might even
>> potentially be capable of doing this. Books with blurbs using phrases such
>> as "after a horrifying tragedy, Hubert has to come to terms with ..." and
>> so on. Pynchon writes of horrors, but he simultaneously hands out steady
>> doses of intriguing mind-expanding prose and side explorations, by way of
>> anesthetic. And I know he loves dogs too much to kill or torture them
>> gratuitously.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: rich
>> >Sent: Nov 29, 2012 10:31 AM
>> >To: alice wellintown
>> >Cc: pynchon -l
>> >Subject: Re: A Good Grace is Hardly Found
>> >
>> >thanks for the suggestion alice. considering my mood lately maybe I
>> >should read more of her. and apologies for being a dick
>> >
>> >rich
>> >
>> >On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, alice wellintown
>> > wrote:
>> >> No probs, bros, I don't spect nothin less round this here list of
>> >> late. But it was a great thing I wrote about grace; if you know what I
>> >> mean. See, grace and free will are tropes that P just be playin wit.
>> >>
>> >> Now that O'Connor is another thing all together. She ain't messing
>> >> round with it; she's dead in the eye serious. What a fine writer is
>> >> Flannery O'Connor; her shorts are tight, her legs, even when they be
>> >> stretched wooden ones, be long.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.csub.edu/english/engl375/o'connor.htmlx
>>
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