The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)

[bandwraith at aol.com]

Huxley's "Island" was probably more appropriate than the dystopian 
"Brave New World".

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_(novel)

In "Island," young male bullies had their radii x-rayed and were given 
medication accordingly. I can't remember if the they were given 
testosterone to speed up puberty, or something else to slow it down. At 
any rate, there has been much research since to suggest that males need 
to be watched more closely for signs of  ultra anti-social violence.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
To: bandwraith <bandwraith at aol.com>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 16, 2012 10:37 am
Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)


Soma?



On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:

Demonizing the shooter's mother is the wrong way to go. It may come out 
that she deserves some blame- just buying the guns in my rad-liberal 
brain (despite my testosterone)- is not a good thing. But there is an 
exponential difference between buying, collecting, target shooting at a 
range and the horrendous random killing of twenty innocent children.

The burden should not just fall on the shoulders' of mothers: to be 
both the familial counterpoint to the inherent violence of their male 
children (and mates), as well as, too often, the victims of it.

Men and women are not equal when it comes to the underlying 
psycho-physical tendencies to commit mass murder. This needs to be 
acknowledged and dealt with- not necessarily by hiring more cops with 
more glocks. Got any ideas?



-----Original Message-----
From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)


And according to friends, the shooter's mom was a gun freak who 
encouraged her
sons to go to the shooting range with her.

Laura


-----Original Message-----

From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Dec 15, 2012 11:08 PM
To: bandwraith at aol.com
Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)

Women will promptly hand those guns over to some man,  either "Mr.

Right"  or a
son or a brother - someone.   The Sandy Hook killer's guns were 
registered in
his mom's name.


Bekah

On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:15 PM, bandwraith at aol.com wrote:


1. Adopt "Smart Gun" technology for all new guns.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Gun

2. After a grace period, all new ammunition must be smart gun

specific- i.e.,
will only work in smart guns.


3. Women can legally buy as many guns, bazookas, rocket launchers,

etc., as
the like.

  3a. Men cannot and are not permitted to own guns of any kind.

Because actually, the problem is not guns, its testosterone. Women

occassionally go nuts and drown their kids, or drag them into a suicide
scenario, but this is rare. There are, to my knowledge, no documented 
massacres
of innocents by women in the U.S. All of them have been perpetrated by 
men. We
need to acknowledge this fact and deal with it accordingly.



-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
To: Amany Rocco Kaiser <amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: NP Misc.


I heartily agree. Twain spoke to it a hundred years back, to the

effect that
we ignite a bunker and throw each other into the flames. Let's see, 
how'd he put
that.... "We build a fire in a powder magazine, then double the fire 
department
to put it out. We inflame wild beasts with the smell of blood, and then
innocently wonder at the wave of brutal appetite that sweeps the land 
as a
consequence." - Speech, between October 5 and October 17, 1907. We feed
psychotropic drugs to people whose minds are already weakened and 
deluded into a
perspective that sees slaughter as common and who are living hopelessly 
at the
edge, then we sell them guns. All the guns they want.



Al queda won, exposing the greatest terrorist network ever devised.

And we
are that.




A Dionysian age is in its full frenzy, taking innocents by the

score. The
Apollonians have work to do. I think few generations have been called 
upon to
rebuild on the ruins of such a society as reigns today, but the coming
generation is tasked with just that. My question is how can we help, 
now that we
have let so much that is bad take root? There's work to be done, that 
much I
believe.



On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Amany Rocco Kaiser

<amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com>
wrote:



We must consider what is behind it.



It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly


sick

society.<<
If it is a matter of "guilt," the people will not be the great judge

of this
court. Because the indictee here is the people themselves ...



ARK





Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:48:49 -0500
Subject: Re: NP Misc.
From: richard.romeo at gmail.com
To: markekohut at yahoo.com
CC: pynchon-l at waste.org




considering what's happened in Connecticut today, a very heavy


feeling


weighs one down. suppose thats what u were referring, too

Hartford Courant @hartfordcourant

One entire classrom is unaccounted for outside the school, sources

said


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>

wrote:

> "The tragic is above all a property which we observe in events,

fortunes,

> characters and the like, wnd which actually
> exists in them. We might say that it is given off by them like a

heavy

> breath, or seems like an obscure glimmering that surrounds them."
> ---On the Tragic, Max
> Scheler, 1954