The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)

[Joe Allonby]

The Boomtown Rats song was about a real incident in which the school
shooting was done by a teenage girl who "didn't like Mondays and
wanted to liven things up".


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM,  <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's even worse than that; this kind of tragedy is overwhelmingly
> perpetrated by young, white, privileged men. A kind of elect. Yes,
> testosterone is surely a factor, but not the only one.
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> Curiously enough, the famous pop song about such an event is about a girl.
> Sung by a man, natch.
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> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> Sender: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:37:56 -0800
> To: <bandwraith at aol.com>
> Cc: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
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> Soma?
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> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
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>> Demonizing the shooter's mother is the wrong way to go. It may come out
>> that she deserves some blame- just buying the guns in my rad-liberal brain
>> (despite my testosterone)- is not a good thing. But there is an exponential
>> difference between buying, collecting, target shooting at a range and the
>> horrendous random killing of twenty innocent children.
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>> The burden should not just fall on the shoulders' of mothers: to be both
>> the familial counterpoint to the inherent violence of their male children
>> (and mates), as well as, too often, the victims of it.
>>
>> Men and women are not equal when it comes to the underlying
>> psycho-physical tendencies to commit mass murder. This needs to be
>> acknowledged and dealt with- not necessarily by hiring more cops with more
>> glocks. Got any ideas?
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:23 pm
>> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
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>> And according to friends, the shooter's mom was a gun freak who encouraged
>> her
>> sons to go to the shooting range with her.
>>
>> Laura
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Dec 15, 2012 11:08 PM
>>> To: bandwraith at aol.com
>>> Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
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>>> Women will promptly hand those guns over to some man,  either "Mr.
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>> Right"  or a
>> son or a brother - someone.   The Sandy Hook killer's guns were registered
>> in
>> his mom's name.
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>>> Bekah
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>>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:15 PM, bandwraith at aol.com wrote:
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>>>> 1. Adopt "Smart Gun" technology for all new guns.
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>>>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Gun
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>>>> 2. After a grace period, all new ammunition must be smart gun
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>> specific- i.e.,
>> will only work in smart guns.
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>>>> 3. Women can legally buy as many guns, bazookas, rocket launchers,
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>> etc., as
>> the like.
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>>>>   3a. Men cannot and are not permitted to own guns of any kind.
>>>>
>>>> Because actually, the problem is not guns, its testosterone. Women
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>> occassionally go nuts and drown their kids, or drag them into a suicide
>> scenario, but this is rare. There are, to my knowledge, no documented
>> massacres
>> of innocents by women in the U.S. All of them have been perpetrated by
>> men. We
>> need to acknowledge this fact and deal with it accordingly.
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Amany Rocco Kaiser <amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com>
>>>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>> Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 2:14 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: NP Misc.
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>>>>
>>>> I heartily agree. Twain spoke to it a hundred years back, to the
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>> effect that
>> we ignite a bunker and throw each other into the flames. Let's see, how'd
>> he put
>> that.... "We build a fire in a powder magazine, then double the fire
>> department
>> to put it out. We inflame wild beasts with the smell of blood, and then
>> innocently wonder at the wave of brutal appetite that sweeps the land as a
>> consequence." - Speech, between October 5 and October 17, 1907. We feed
>> psychotropic drugs to people whose minds are already weakened and deluded
>> into a
>> perspective that sees slaughter as common and who are living hopelessly at
>> the
>> edge, then we sell them guns. All the guns they want.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Al queda won, exposing the greatest terrorist network ever devised.
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>> And we
>> are that.
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>>>> A Dionysian age is in its full frenzy, taking innocents by the
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>> score. The
>> Apollonians have work to do. I think few generations have been called upon
>> to
>> rebuild on the ruins of such a society as reigns today, but the coming
>> generation is tasked with just that. My question is how can we help, now
>> that we
>> have let so much that is bad take root? There's work to be done, that much
>> I
>> believe.
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>>>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Amany Rocco Kaiser
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>> <amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>> We must consider what is behind it.
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>>>>>> It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly
>>
>> sick
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>>>> society.<<
>>>> If it is a matter of "guilt," the people will not be the great judge
>>
>> of this
>> court. Because the indictee here is the people themselves ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ARK
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>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:48:49 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: NP Misc.
>>>>> From: richard.romeo at gmail.com
>>>>> To: markekohut at yahoo.com
>>>>> CC: pynchon-l at waste.org
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>>>>> considering what's happened in Connecticut today, a very heavy
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>> feeling
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>>>>> weighs one down. suppose thats what u were referring, too
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>>>>> Hartford Courant @hartfordcourant
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>>>>> One entire classrom is unaccounted for outside the school, sources
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>>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> > "The tragic is above all a property which we observe in events,
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>>>> fortunes,
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>>>>> > characters and the like, wnd which actually
>>>>> > exists in them. We might say that it is given off by them like a
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>>>>> > breath, or seems like an obscure glimmering that surrounds them."
>>>>> > ---On the Tragic, Max
>>>>> > Scheler, 1954
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