Crocodile tears

Amany Rocco amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 30 11:53:55 CST 2012 

The U.S is a curious country, ehh...
Cry crocodile tears and are outraged if their children are shot and killed... But in the following week are already buying every weapon possible before that is regulated...

> CC: pynchon-l at waste.org
> From: markekohut at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:28:14 -0500
> To: kelber at mindspring.com
> 
> shooting one's mother in the face, and 6 other female teachers and all those children shows sick and/or evil rage against ........the feminine, the vulnerable, the nurturers, ...........at least. 
> 
> Oedipal revenge. The Rage of the Never-Repressed, so to speak...
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Dec 16, 2012, at 12:03 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
> 
> > The idea, of course, is feminism.  The problem is that on Planet Earth, men will not relinquish authority to women.  So women have to make their personal bargains with the devil to survive. Feminism is not going to gain traction via Facebook posts and online petitions.  It's not going to take hold because a few more women are elected to the Senate.  The sexist outpourings from progressive men alone, during the Obama versus Hillary primary, was as offensive and repellent as it gets.  Men will never relinquish power to women, unless there's no power to relinquish (i.e., when it's obvious to everyone that Congress is just a corporate subsidiary, then they can afford to have some cute girls hosting it).  The strategy for relegating men to a long-term equal or subordinate role in governing hasn't been invented yet.
> > 
> > Laura
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bandwraith at aol.com
> >> Sent: Dec 16, 2012 4:51 AM
> >> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
> >> 
> >> Demonizing the shooter's mother is the wrong way to go. It may come out 
> >> that she deserves some blame- just buying the guns in my rad-liberal 
> >> brain (despite my testosterone)- is not a good thing. But there is an 
> >> exponential difference between buying, collecting, target shooting at a 
> >> range and the horrendous random killing of twenty innocent children.
> >> 
> >> The burden should not just fall on the shoulders' of mothers: to be 
> >> both the familial counterpoint to the inherent violence of their male 
> >> children (and mates), as well as, too often, the victims of it.
> >> 
> >> Men and women are not equal when it comes to the underlying 
> >> psycho-physical tendencies to commit mass murder. This needs to be 
> >> acknowledged and dealt with- not necessarily by hiring more cops with 
> >> more glocks. Got any ideas?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
> >> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >> Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:23 pm
> >> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> And according to friends, the shooter's mom was a gun freak who 
> >> encouraged her
> >> sons to go to the shooting range with her.
> >> 
> >> Laura
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> >>> Sent: Dec 15, 2012 11:08 PM
> >>> To: bandwraith at aol.com
> >>> Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >>> Subject: Re: The fix (Was Re: NP Misc.)
> >>> 
> >>> Women will promptly hand those guns over to some man,  either "Mr.
> >> Right"  or a
> >> son or a brother - someone.   The Sandy Hook killer's guns were 
> >> registered in
> >> his mom's name.
> >>> 
> >>> Bekah
> >>> 
> >>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:15 PM, bandwraith at aol.com wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> 1. Adopt "Smart Gun" technology for all new guns.
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Gun
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2. After a grace period, all new ammunition must be smart gun
> >> specific- i.e.,
> >> will only work in smart guns.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 3. Women can legally buy as many guns, bazookas, rocket launchers,
> >> etc., as
> >> the like.
> >>>>  3a. Men cannot and are not permitted to own guns of any kind.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Because actually, the problem is not guns, its testosterone. Women
> >> occassionally go nuts and drown their kids, or drag them into a suicide
> >> scenario, but this is rare. There are, to my knowledge, no documented 
> >> massacres
> >> of innocents by women in the U.S. All of them have been perpetrated by 
> >> men. We
> >> need to acknowledge this fact and deal with it accordingly.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: Amany Rocco Kaiser <amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com>
> >>>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 2:14 pm
> >>>> Subject: Re: NP Misc.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I heartily agree. Twain spoke to it a hundred years back, to the
> >> effect that
> >> we ignite a bunker and throw each other into the flames. Let's see, 
> >> how'd he put
> >> that.... "We build a fire in a powder magazine, then double the fire 
> >> department
> >> to put it out. We inflame wild beasts with the smell of blood, and then
> >> innocently wonder at the wave of brutal appetite that sweeps the land 
> >> as a
> >> consequence." - Speech, between October 5 and October 17, 1907. We feed
> >> psychotropic drugs to people whose minds are already weakened and 
> >> deluded into a
> >> perspective that sees slaughter as common and who are living hopelessly 
> >> at the
> >> edge, then we sell them guns. All the guns they want.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Al queda won, exposing the greatest terrorist network ever devised.
> >> And we
> >> are that.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> A Dionysian age is in its full frenzy, taking innocents by the
> >> score. The
> >> Apollonians have work to do. I think few generations have been called 
> >> upon to
> >> rebuild on the ruins of such a society as reigns today, but the coming
> >> generation is tasked with just that. My question is how can we help, 
> >> now that we
> >> have let so much that is bad take root? There's work to be done, that 
> >> much I
> >> believe.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Amany Rocco Kaiser
> >> <amanyroccokaiser at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> We must consider what is behind it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>>> It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly
> >> sick
> >>>> society.<<
> >>>> If it is a matter of "guilt," the people will not be the great judge
> >> of this
> >> court. Because the indictee here is the people themselves ...
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> ARK
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:48:49 -0500
> >>>>> Subject: Re: NP Misc.
> >>>>> From: richard.romeo at gmail.com
> >>>>> To: markekohut at yahoo.com
> >>>>> CC: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> considering what's happened in Connecticut today, a very heavy
> >> feeling
> >>>>> weighs one down. suppose thats what u were referring, too
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hartford Courant @hartfordcourant
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> One entire classrom is unaccounted for outside the school, sources
> >>>> said
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "The tragic is above all a property which we observe in events,
> >>>> fortunes,
> >>>>>> characters and the like, wnd which actually
> >>>>>> exists in them. We might say that it is given off by them like a
> >>>> heavy
> >>>>>> breath, or seems like an obscure glimmering that surrounds them."
> >>>>>> ---On the Tragic, Max
> >>>>>> Scheler, 1954
> > 
 		 	   		   		 	   		  
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