NP..."Like a patient etherized upon a table".....

Alex Colter recoignishon at gmail.com
Wed Feb 1 15:19:21 CST 2012


I don't mean to be too hard on Mr. Rosen because of some silly quote,
whether he belongs in such a camp is not for me to say.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mr. Rosen provides a charming example of what Prof. Bloom, calls (and
> Pynchon seems to agree) 'The School of Resentment', whose argument
> typically goes something like this [fill in the blank]: "Oh you prefer
> [this poet] to [that poet] because of [perceived aesthetic differences]?
> You must be [anti-semitic, racist, sexist, et al]."
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess I remember, buried, closer to fact than opinion,-- my
>> conflation--, remarks like these from Jonathon Rosen in the NYTimes in 2005:
>> " Bloom had somehow dislodged T. S. Eliot from his dominant position in
>> the syllabus and replaced him with Wallace Stevens, and though there was a
>> fine literary argument for this that had to do with Milton and his Romantic
>> heirs, as opposed to the metaphysical poets favored by Eliot, I always
>> suspected it had to do with the fact that Eliot was an anti-Semite."
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>
>> To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: NP..."Like a patient etherized upon a table".....
>>
>>
>> Bloom considers Eliot among the foremost American Poets of the 20th
>> Century. However Dr. Bloom began his career as a student of Northrop Frye
>> and a fierce defender of the Romantics, in stark contrast to Mr. Eliot's
>> 'New Criticism'. Bloom insists, and grows more zealous with age, on the
>> influence of Whitman upon the young poet, something Mr. Eliot seems to have
>> done his best to resist, even ironically quoting Whitman here and there.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> PaulVermeersch Somehow, the study of English literature became the study
>> of French philosophy without anyone calling bullshit.
>> >
>> >I don't know who this tweeter is, but if you have, as I have,
>> refurbished some of your English Lit background with more immersion
>> >in T. S. Eliot (and pal Ezra)'s profound influence on modernism in
>> literature---T.S. with a PhD in Bergson and a formative
>> >self-education in the French Symbolists---we see it in TRP and WG (I
>> think) and John Ashbery and
>> >many others, then this remark can strike one.
>> >
>> >No wonder Bloom disses T.S. and praises Emerson to the heavens,
>> transcendentally.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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