..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space

Bled Welder bledwelder at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 11 12:22:01 CST 2012


Speaking of space and extradimensions, somebody was talking about mushrooms.  Not the amarita muscaria, that's pointless and ridiculous.  Explore the psilocybe.  Not that you'll walk away knowing what you just experienced, but you might agree that it was some other dimension(s).  I have my own opinions and theory about what happens on four grams or higher, but two or three should give you a decent glimpse--
I'm way behind on reading the emails, but I like a quote from Schrodinger I just read somebody left, something about everything is space, matter is only tiny fluctuations in it, of it?  First reminded me of Parmenides, for whatever reason, then I thought of Heraclitus, "All is one and one is all.  It is the lightening bolt that steers all things."  Nietzsche might agree, or not disagree, will to power, lightening bolt.  Light-bolt, will-power, sorta thing.
But what are they talking about?  Schrodinger's quote didn't address what is space.  What is the lightning bolt that steers all things?  What is the will to power that is life?  Both seem rather metaphysical, or something.  Precisely what Nietzsche condemned, poor guy.  Maybe Nietzsche and Heraclitus believed something like the opposite, only matter and no space?  Or was that Parmenides?  Damn.

> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:17:44 -0800
> Subject: Re: ..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space
> From: igrlivingston at gmail.com
> To: malignd at aol.com
> CC: pynchon-l at waste.org
> 
> It's that thing about metaphors. All science, like all other attempts
> to explain the world, is a set of metaphors. They're always changing,
> but we're impatient, want them to last.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:56 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you can say that science has been "wrong"; again, the bomb.
> >  Incomplete, certainly; that's the way science works.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
> > To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 1:46 pm
> > Subject: Re: ..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space
> >
> > Exactly what I was going to say. Those little matter spirit devils can be
> > pretty
> > mean. But I think Laura is not so much talking about their atoms reality
> > but
> > the degree to which we have  an accurate model /understanding. That is where
> > science has been wrong or at lest incomplete, and where new data continues
> > to
> > confound or at least disturb the models we have.
> > On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:58 PM, David Morris wrote:
> >
> >> They might just be really pissed-off matter-spirits...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> >>> doesn't the splitting and fusing of atoms to create bombs show that
> >>> atoms
> > are "real"?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
 		 	   		  
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