AtD, where the theme of spying begins in it.

[Mark Kohut]

Why wrong?...our glosses seem finely overlapping and yours is lyrically expressed....
Very fine, imho...

From: barbie gaze <barbiegaze at gmail.com>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: AtD, where the theme of spying begins in it.


An Inconvenient Society, one that, from a Victorian position, above, censors free lovers and the arts, even as the boy peepers descend into the darkening shadows of the White City. It's quite an ironic and humorous take; Pynchon's narrative seems on the side of the free love movement and not on that of Society. That the constructive censors plan to erect a moral standard in the decling and closing Wild West, even in a white pasteboard mask museum world, by un-natural and un-nature-ing processes, and thus making of the transparent  eyeball of Emerson's Transcendentalist and also of his God, an opaque and impenatrabile sky, is worth considering. I suppose, but I'm probably just wrong again.  


On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

I think part of the historical reference is to Emerson's famous essay, Nature....transparent eyeball oneness with nature has been, is being
>replaced by the Giant Eyeball of Society, yes the Airship,  seeming to offer 'constructive criticism'  of their nakedness.........and that 
>Pinkerton Eyeball is alluded to.......
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>yes, it is brilliantly comic and I think I am pointing to a few more comic elements.....P's great theme of 'being watched' in a macrothematic
>sense..................
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>The airship is like Hawthorne's Celestial Railroad sounding in nature........
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>And I'll stand by the rest of my gloss---shooting her, not fucking her---. 
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>From: barbie gaze <barbiegaze at gmail.com>
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org 
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:40 PM
>Subject: Re: AtD, where the theme of spying begins in it.
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>The scene is brilliant comedy, fast and funny, and stuffed with historical reference, so I'm not seeing the allusion to Emerson or to a transparent eyeball;  the boys tripping over and tangled in hemp, in language uses and abuses, in the work and its chains of command, in their petty internal struggles while the ship descends dangerously, then the lads' libidos are focused by the spyglass, the photographer and his lovely subject caught in the collective gaze of boy spies in the sky till the ship seems a giant eye gazing on their art making and they run for the woods. But, I could be way off here.    
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