..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Feb 13 20:59:30 CST 2012


Lacan took Freud's unconcious to Language.
If Language is a brick in the wall of Science, then metaphor is all our
root.  See NOBrown's later works.

On Monday, February 13, 2012,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> Fuck you, you defensive little shit.  The part of science that is data
collection, observation, collation, comparison, experimentation, etc.,
etc.?
> Better go back to your books. Reading is easier than thinking.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 12, 2012 10:59 pm
> Subject: Re: ..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space
>
> Well, your argument is so overwhelmingly convincing, I'll just toss
> out the works on physics, linguistics, neurology, philosophy, and
> psychology that have inclined me to my opinion and hand the laurels
> over to you. You obviously know better than all those fools.
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:34 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>> All science is a set of metaphors?  I don't think that's true at all.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 7:17 pm
>> Subject: Re: ..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space
>>
>> It's that thing about metaphors. All science, like all other attempts
>> to explain the world, is a set of metaphors. They're always changing,
>> but we're impatient, want them to last.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:56 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think you can say that science has been "wrong"; again, the
bomb.
>>>  Incomplete, certainly; that's the way science works.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>>> To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 1:46 pm
>>> Subject: Re: ..Not in the least bit Pynchonic -- space
>>>
>>> Exactly what I was going to say. Those little matter spirit devils can
be
>>> pretty
>>> mean. But I think Laura is not so much talking about their atoms reality
>>> but
>>> the degree to which we have  an accurate model /understanding. That is
>>> where
>>> science has been wrong or at lest incomplete, and where new data
continues
>>> to
>>> confound or at least disturb the models we have.
>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:58 PM, David Morris wrote:
>>>
>>>> They might just be really pissed-off matter-spirits...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> doesn't the splitting and fusing of atoms to create bombs show that
>>>>> atoms
>>> are "real"?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
>> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
>> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
>> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
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