Runaway women in Pynchon
Ian Livingston
igrlivingston at gmail.com
Mon Feb 20 00:30:10 CST 2012
I suppose Victoria Wren could even pass as a refugee from Edwardian
life and mores....
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com> wrote:
> On of my very favorites is Mitzi from M&D, on the run from her husband Peter
> & his new friend Jesus, in a carriage and later Mr Knockwood's Inn with the
> Surveyors, meets Armand the Frenchman etc, tho she eventually returns...
> also in M&D there's that one (nameless?) gal from the Jesuit Harem, as told
> in 'The Ghastly Fop', who escapes Quebec with Capt. Zhang, and who Mason
> insists looks exactly like Rebecca....eventually she leaves withat Tsuza,
> perhaps preferring Feminine Company.
>
> Would Geli Tripping be considered Runaway?
>
> Good topic.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Boy I got behind, eh?
>>
>> Bek
>>
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>>
>> > YES...I did think of her AFTER, hours after this post---in fact after
>> > attending that Yale lecture but
>> > wanted to see if anyone was reading these posts. Smile..
>> >
>> > Figured it might be you or Bekah..........
>> >
>> > It is the way she does walk away questinly that is so different from the
>> > way the others are presented....
>> > Bolters, mostly...against not towards....or towards freedom not
>> > answers......
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:01 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Runaway women in Pynchon
>> >
>> > And don't forget Oedipa, who doesn't run, but walks purposefully
>> > towards.
>> >
>> > LK
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Mark Kohut
>> > Sent: Feb 16, 2012 7:56 AM
>> > To: pynchon -l
>> > Subject: Runaway women in Pynchon
>> >
>> > Troth---Lew's wife
>> > Erlys----Merle's wife
>> > ----Merle keeps sayin Dally's gonna bolt when old enough
>> > Edwarda Beef (w maid, Vaseline)----Scarsdale Vibe's wife (she
>> > half-leaves)
>> > Lake ----Webb's first daughter
>> > more to come in AtD but also
>> >
>> > Frenesy
>> > Doc's first love
>> >
>> > pretty thematic, I'd say. Unhappy women wanting out---and taking their
>> > ways.
>> > The feminine (whatever that is, but is it in The White Goddess' wake/)
>> > will out in
>> > the patriarchal, authoritarian culture (AtD anyway)?
>> >
>> > And thematic re the men: all unhappy at their loss....their life's love
>> > lost........
>> > Men more 'romantic'---in psychological sense--than women, yes?
>> > goes back to ole Benny, yes?........(was just reminded of how Webb lost
>> > his first love too)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
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creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
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than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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