final note from the desk of a psilo-overman

jochen stremmel jstremmel at gmail.com
Wed Feb 22 13:32:40 CST 2012


»Interesting that McKenna and Nietzsche both died young from brain
tumors, or have I already mentioned that.«

What's the gist of that? Nietzsche was 55 when his body died; "from
brain tumor"? - new to me.

2012/2/22 Bled Welder <bledwelder at hotmail.com>:
> I have not; although I have found myself thinking more and more about
> Moore's Law.  Or is that More's Law?  The exponential one, whichever,
> whomever.
>
> Right, the clear trouble arises when discussing a timeless dimension,
> because all discussion takes time.  Takes our timespace dimension time,
> anyway.  And how can a human experience a timeless dimension, because that
> would involve retaining our identity during the duration of the experience.
>  We could not be conscious of it during its duration, then remember it, like
> a dream, because then we are reviewing it in this timespace.  Fun takes time
> too, so.  But I had the distinct impression that retaining one's identity in
> such situations is possible.  However impossible--I suppose the answer must
> be that they're not timeless dimensions, but not-our timespace dimensions.
>  I used 'timeless' only to distinguish as such.  Would be fun to be able to
> escape time and space though, whatever dimension, and retain our identity.
>  If not a little off-putting.
>
> The inside of the cable, into the black hole at the base of my brain, was
> itself space; the curving structure of the outside-layer of the cable
> consisted of smaller long cables, strings, that ran the length of it,
> disappearing at the black hole ahead, but never reached, or came together at
> the end, the black hole had a diameter, and these smaller strings were bound
> round by other, perpendicular, whatever the term, cables, and all cables
> were of green and blue and red colors, and were illuminated, that is to say
> they were luminous, but not illuminating.  And on each cable were bits,
> sometimes it seemed like small black ovals, and all of them moved, on their
> strings, equally and in synch.  They appeared to be information that was
> flowing, both ways, but never both ways on a single string.  At the
> beginning of the experience, these independent cables are not yet bound into
> one cable, but string about with an apparent type of randomness, often
> binding around one another in a doublehelix fashion; then you begin to move
> in to it, what appears now to be the edge of a galaxy, and all the strings
> and cables, with bits flowing on them, never cross-string, begin to spin and
> swirl into them and then you begin to move into that swirling that deepens
> and you are inside the main cable and all the other bound strings and cables
> that bind it are flowing passed.
>
> Fascinating to me that theoretical astrophysicists and whoever spend their
> time thinking about the centers of galaxies, out there, when there's one at
> the base of their brain. Isn't that wild?  I would love to have two types of
> person's opinion of the experience I am exploring; a Brainman type, who can
> calculate way into pi by seeing numbers as flowing shapes, and any person of
> advanced mathematical talents who believes that the universe is constructed
> of numbers.
>
> Perhaps one of them can interpret the information, because as of now anyway,
> granted I'm only beginning, I am at a loss.  I don't intend to make a
> bizarre maneuver like McKenna and begin decoding the I Ching.  Although
> McKenna did love Nabokov as I do, and even made a clear reference to the
> eternal recurrence when he describe his experience post-tumor, this "bug in
> the moonlight."  Interesting that McKenna and Nietzsche both died young from
> brain tumors, or have I already mentioned that.
>
> Interesting to consider how the psilocybe has been with Us for only what,
> sixty years now.  It's all very new to us, compared to the external
> sciences.  And look how it too, is evolving so quickly!  A fun example
> being, thanks to technology and Moore, naturally, what McKenna had to do in
> 1972 to get ahold of the psilocybe in the jungles of Peru, his La Chorerra
> story, compared with today, when one can order the necessary components
> online and have everything delivered, and never have to leave one's home.
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:05:43 +0000
>
>> Subject: Re: final note from the desk of a psilo-overman
>> From: michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>
>>
>> Bled Welder wrote:
>>
>> > An internet of types, maybe. Is that fun? Is there be fun to be had in
>> > timeless dimensions?
>> >
>>
>> being a relentlessly physical person, what interests me most is the
>> feeling you get when you contemplate types...I mean, is it a bloodless
>> sort of intellectual interest, or is there something there that grabs
>> you and quickens the pulse, improves the thought-feeling interface?
>>
>> anyway, your second question is even better - is there fun to be had
>> in timeless dimensions? Sounds like you may still be grooving on your
>> "space" question.
>> I actually ran with that question a little further, thinking about how
>> you could solve time/space so that time dropped out of the equation,
>> in a touchy-feely liberal arts type of way of course:
>> time really is a measurement of movement, right?
>> So that we talk about time-frames, and then we can say that within
>> that frame, and concerning the particular movements under
>> consideration, it's possible to consider an entire sheaf of movement
>> and say what is happening/has happened/will happen...
>>
>> which in a liberal arts way is maybe like naming a literary movement
>> (aha - "movement") say postmodernism...time hasn't really dropped out
>> though, has it, although it's been somewhat delineated... and in fact
>> I speaking of time must leave for work shortly, but these
>> considerations are pretty psychedelic in and of themselves
>>
>> wishing you benevolent cosmic co-operation with your psychedelic projects!
>>
>> Mike Bailey



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