AtD gold

[Paul Mackin]

On 2/23/2012 1:36 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
> David is right and I am firming up a longer defense of my moral reading.
> It too must take into account what is 'beyond good and evil and
> all binaries' or it is my weakness in the reading.....
>
> Trying to find what is not to be "taken at face value" --perhaps what goes
> "beyond the binaries of good/evil?" among other perspectives--- is also part of what I have tried to write
> here, including all of that verbiage (of mine) about what is meaningful amidst all the parody.
>
> Gold remark was simplistically lame, sorry---yet made 'cause THAT in AtD, GR and IH---seemed a base
> belief of TRP's beyond irony, done parodically.
>
> I'm trying to be more than simplistic.
Pynchon does parody writing styles sometimes.  He parodied Jacobean 
Revenge Tragedy in Lot 49. Heck, that whole novel may be a parody of 
postmodern writing.  Not a farfetched idea at all. I doubt it was 
intentional however.  I don't think he ever engages in self-parody. He's 
too good to be parodied, even by himself.

I realize there are no hard and fast rules on how one must interpret the 
novel one is reading,  but, if you want my opinion, here is one anyway: 
deconstruct at your earliest convenience any binary opposition between 
meaningful and nonmeaningful  you might be inclined to entertain.

P




>
>   Keep challenging
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Morris<fqmorris at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>
> Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: AtD gold
>
> Barbie was, I'm sure, being facetious.  But Mark K. is typically
> (including this time) the source of these "This is TRP's bad/good"
> statements, and he's being serious.  At a very binary level, Mark is
> at least half-way correct.  But binaries aren't to be taken at face
> value (TRP's bad).
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> On 2/23/2012 11:09 AM, David Morris wrote:
>>> I agree, but I've stopped calling these simplistic equations banal.
>>> If true, Pynchon would be one of the least interesting writers on
>>> earth.
>>
>> Yes, I agree.  But wasn't Barbie being facetious?  Barbie, WERE you being facetious?
>>
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>> P
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>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:25 AM, rich<richard.romeo at gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>> nice words but high falutin bullshit
>>>> this is bad; this is good.
>>>> try again fella
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Mark Kohut<markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>> "After the repeal of the Silver Act, gold resumed its tyrannical
>>>>>> rule".....[maybe not an exact quote].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gold is bad shit in AtD, in TRP in general, and a symbol for America's
>>>>>> striving for money?  Shit, Money, etc...
>>
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