As forewarned, CERN has presser tomorrow on Higgs

[David Morris]

Thanks Prashany,

Conversant (with us non) physicist might be as rare as hen's teeth.

It's amazing how less than a week of new can make one smarter.

Weird World.

David Morris

On Thursday, July 5, 2012, Prashant Kumar wrote:

> It bestows existence indirectly; without mass all you have is a soup of
> particles with no large scale interaction. Gravity is responsible for
> forming everything we see insofar as it is the only force which does not
> repel, i.e. there are no positive and negative gravitational "poles".
>
> Paul, re the essence-existence thing, quantum mechanics throws up some
> interesting questions as to the philosophical nature of existence and
> identity. Since all subatomic particles are identical, you have a problem
> reconciling quantum mechanical notions of identity with Leibniz's Identity
> of Indiscernables. Some people go so far as to introduce haecceities into
> the discussion; historically speaking this is interesting since this
> results in a  debate spookily analogous to that of the medieval scholastics.
>
> Prashant
>
> On 6 July 2012 02:24, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mackin.paul at verizon.net');>
> > wrote:
>
>> On 7/5/2012 11:35 AM, David Morris wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I stand corrected.  Existence w/o mass.  I expect such existence
>>> would never become more organized than at the sub-atomic level.  But
>>> I'm no physicist.
>>>
>>
>> Me neither, but somehow I'm reminded of the Medieval controversy over the
>> distinction between essence and existence, if any.
>>
>>
>> P
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'montedavis at verizon.net');>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It bestows mass; they haven’t [yet] gotten around to a field/particle
>>>> that
>>>> “bestows existence.”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  From  David Morris
>>>> Higgs is the new either, a medium that bestows existence.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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