IV translation: pan parlors
Max Nemtsov
max.nemtsov at gmail.com
Fri Jul 6 01:19:31 CDT 2012
wow - thank you, Bekah!
this explains it, and someone should definitely put it into the wiki ))
until my next question,
Mx
On 06.07.2012 6:33, Bekah wrote:
> I could have sworn I'd heard of the game of "pan" from my old cow town studies -
>
> As for pan game, turns out that’s short for panguingue and evolved from conquian. You take eight 52-card decks, remove the 8’s, 9’s and 10’s, deal 10 cards to as many as 15 players, try to “meld” 11 cards —
> http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/the-gambling-epoch/
> ***
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> pan, originally known as panguingue, card game played only in the western United States, where it is popular as a gambling game in many clubs. It developed from conquian, the ancestor of rummy games.
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> Eight standard 52-card decks from which the 8s, 9s, and 10s have been removed are used, with cards ranking in descending order K, Q, J, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, A. The game is best with 6 or 7 players, although as many as 15 may play. Each player is dealt 10 cards, in two batches of 5 cards. The rotation of the deal and play is clockwise from the dealer, as in all card games of Spanish origin. The remainder of the pack is placed facedown on the table to form the stock, and the top card is turned faceup beside it to begin the discard pile.
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> More at:
> http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/662518/pan
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> On Jul 4, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Max Nemtsov wrote:
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>> oh - thank you, guys!
>> that makes more sense than my initial guesses, following pan to betel-chewing or this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pan
>> (no 2)
>> Mx
>>
>> On 04.07.2012 22:49, Mark Kohut wrote:
>>> Only other Google Books citation besides Inherent Vice: Adds nothing to paul's insights....
>>>
>>> Mendocino County remembered: an oral history
>>>
>>> Bruce Levene, Mendocino County American Bicentennial History Project, Mendocino County Historical Society - 1976
>>> Then up opposite Jarvis and Nichols' Store to the west, there was a couple of
>>> pan parlors that had saloons right there. Just for a little while Billy "Goats"
>>> had that little place in between the Jarvis and Nichols' Store and the ...
>>> books.google.com
>>>
>>> From: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: IV translation: pan parlors
>>>
>>> On 7/4/2012 11:43 AM, Max Nemtsov wrote:
>>>> p. 183 "What. No horses, no pan parlors?"
>>>>
>>>> could anyone clarify p.p. please? kinda hard for me without living in LA in 1970 ))
>>>> Mx
>>>>
>>> just a guess but it might mean no money owed to bookies (horse) or poker parlors (super pan 9).
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>>> P
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