(np) cast of hogan's heroes included 4 victims of nazi persecution

bandwraith at aol.com bandwraith at aol.com
Sun Jul 15 10:29:43 CDT 2012


Yes, interesting. But reading on in the google books excerpt you linked 
to suggests a tenous but interesting link to ATD, and Pynchon/Adams, in 
general. That is, the abstraction of history and the suggestion that 
historical events can be addressed mathematically. All the bogus math 
and science presented in ATD seem at least partly correct, or, to be at 
least partly based on mathematical "truth." Take The Integrator, 
invented by Merle and Roswell (beginning page 1035...), an interesting 
example of such bogosity, which allows the integration of the entire 
present from a tiny sliver/snapshot of the past.  But now reading from 
the link you posted:

    " Having adopted such an attitude about history, the show renders 
absurd all discourses about war.... The very conceit that historical 
events have no casual relationships with eachother [i.e., can be 
"differentiated" from the continuum, and treated in isolation] can be 
read in a different light as well. Historical contingency as an 
organizing principle in Hogan's Heroes works along side a rescaling of 
historical engagement. The result is the "little guy" theory of 
history. Every time an episode claims the outcome of the war will turn 
on the prisoners' ablilty to pull off a particular stunt, the show 
suggests that history is not made in the halls of power but in the 
sphere of influence occupied by common people. The outcome of the 
episodes, and even the global historical events to which they claim to 
be attached, hinges on the vicissitudes of a particular act or 
interpersonal tie."

In contrast to Merle's and Roswell's "Integrator," Hollywood, or at 
least the sitcom industry in this example, came up with the inverse 
process: a way of going from the whole integrated present back to a 
tiny differentiated snapshot of time in the past. Probably just as 
bogus and, certainly just as prone to insidious historical "adjustment."





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From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
To: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 12:19 am
Subject: (np) cast of hogan's heroes included 4 victims of nazi 
persecution


ok, i was doing a search on werner klemperer for reasons of my own
that i can't really recollect, and found...


http://books.google.com/books?id=iKUmSl00aGcC&pg=PT63&lpg=PT63&dq=werner+klemperer&source=bl&ots=KMGymEE9T2&sig=LHtP1vK1btjWsu4OnTwZK1epjbI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qfEAUMvMCeOA2wX0wtGFCw&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=werner%20klemperer&f=false

interesting because...

a) there's a whole book about the show - wow

b) wwii, nazis, tv - sort of a pynchon gestalt





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