Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?

[Ian Livingston]

An exceptional metaphor carries broad resonances. Pynchon seems to have
given us an exceptional metaphor in this scene. Thanks for making the
connection, Mark.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Certainly don't have to be elderly to be in a near vegetative state, dats
> dun wither influx of der media, yknow, disses maxe us zombies
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> My own twisted theory about why our culture is so awash with zombies and
>> vampires is that we are, in effect, awash with the undead - the elderly.
>>  Those who are in near vegetative states; those whose minds are still
>> active but whose bodies are wasted by disease and paralysis;  even those
>> who have no quality of life, and are living impoverished, lonely lives with
>> no way out -- they're the living dead among us.  With assisted suicide
>> inaccessible to all but a few, there's nothing we can do to help them, and
>> we dread the inevitability of becoming them.  This suppressed dread
>> surfaces in the form of crap zombie and vampire schlock.  Better to face
>> reality.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Ian Livingston **
>> Sent: Jul 20, 2012 12:41 PM
>> To: rich **
>> Cc: Mark Kohut **, pynchon -l **
>> Subject: Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
>>
>> It's that darned apocalypse again, that exhibition of the worst in us, in
>> which we thrill to news of suffering. Yes, we honor the vampire, for the
>> vampire is us. And when we recoil in horror at human beastliness, we reveal
>> also that which is good enough to care....
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:30 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> no, i thought some douchebag destroyed families, parents, and lives.
>>> what is it with tis country of ours.
>>>
>>> remember being a literary conference where the speaker was droning on
>>> about trauma like it was some loving fetish for like literary critics
>>> to pick apart and discuss. I found the whole discussion rather
>>> distasteful and vampiric
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Donovan Tate was in Theater 9 during shooting. The unreality of it
>>> happening
>>> > in a movie: "I didn't think it was gunshots at all."
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust
>> in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
>> groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
>> urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>> ********
>>
>>
>


-- 
"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all creeds
the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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